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Author Topic:   The Flood = many coincidences
ringo
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Message 219 of 445 (572426)
08-05-2010 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Coyote
08-05-2010 4:15 PM


Coyote writes:
The mtDNA from that individual matched living individuals in the same area, showing at minimum they were from the same lineage.
Playing devil's advocate here: Everybody alive today is supposedly descended from Noah, so doesn't the mtDNA evidence just show that that individual was also in the lineage of Noah? (Of course, it would be quite a coincidence if every find from before the flood was in the lineage of Noah.)

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
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Message 221 of 445 (572433)
08-05-2010 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by Coyote
08-05-2010 7:10 PM


Re: mtDNA
Coyote writes:
Native American mtDNA lineages are distinct from those in the Middle East. Geneticists have worked out the divisions and subdivisions of the different haplogroups and haplotypes since modern man left Africa.
Okay. Good. I was wondering if you were just going with the coincience aspect but I see that there are multiple lines of argument.

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ringo
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Message 353 of 445 (611074)
04-05-2011 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 352 by Robert Byers
04-05-2011 3:03 AM


Why are there no human remains below the flood line?

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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ringo
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Message 362 of 445 (611454)
04-08-2011 1:13 AM
Reply to: Message 360 by Robert Byers
04-08-2011 12:35 AM


Robert Byers writes:
We would say very little remains relative to that world actually survive as fossils.
You haven't thought this through. There are fossils below the K-T boundary, which you call the flood line. That's where the dinosaurs are - and they're not all big dinosaurs. Some of them are similar in size to humans, or smaller.
The question, again, is: Why are there dinosaur fossils only before the flood and human fossils only after? Where are the fossils of the humans who died before the flood?

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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ringo
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Message 368 of 445 (611906)
04-12-2011 3:03 AM
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04-12-2011 2:23 AM


Robert byers writes:
I don't expect to find human remains from before the flood.
I'm asking you why you'd expect to find dinosaur fossils before the flood but not human fossils. You claim that all human fossils remains were destroyed by the flood and dinosaur remains were not - but that's just empty speculation.
The Bible says nothing about humans being concentrated near the coast, nor does it say anything about the flood being more "sedate" in some areas than others.
You seem to be using the word "expect" dishonestly. Your so-called expectations are really nothing more than an ad hoc attempt to cover a rather silly statement about the K-T boundary. They have no basis in either fact or logic and no basis in the Bible.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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