The Flood = many coincidences

I could not agree more, but would like to add one other point. The entire field of geoscience is interlocked with all other sciences. To deny the radiometric dating requires not just a rejection of geology but also chemistry and physics. To deny an old earth or the requirement of a global flood requires even more, the rejection of anthropology, history, linguistics, and indeed what is commonly referred to as common sense. The list goes on into hundreds of ways all knowledge, in particular scientific knowledge, is not just interrelated but mutually supportive. And for what? an overly simplistic understanding of the Old Testament that dishonors both Christianity in general and the NT in the particular?Where is the victory in allowing all people to starve to death or become something out of some sci-fi post apocalyptic nightmare because one must destroy all science that is not sanctified by the likes of Ken Ham or the Discovery Institute?I wish everyone would take the time to see the tremendous beauty of mathematics, real science, and how it all fits together. It is far more awesome than some pompous self-proclaimed intermediary between us and God.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

No wonder they can't find the Ark. Must have landed on Quaror or Sedna.This is great stuff, have you considered being a comedy act in the creationist circuit? Well, I guess if you already speak for all gods, speaking for all architects is not much of a stretch.Hilarious, how did I miss this?

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

This is one of the most incredibly ignorant statements I have ever witnessed in this forum.Just for one little example of which there are thousands, let us consider the town of Hollister, California.The primary claim to fame Hollister has is that it was the inspiration for the movie the The Wild One when a bunch of proto-bikers descended upon the city and a few fistfights occurred a few years after WW2, thus inspiring an entire cultural phenomena.The next claim to fame is that the high school built bleachers directly over the San Andreas fault, otherwise known as the boundary between the Pacific and North American plates in this tectonics you swear does not exist.The bleachers were put up in 1957 IIRC, by 1977 they were diagonally displaced by 18", which to anyone with a calculator can figure as 22.5 mm or 2.25 cm per year.This example is famous among people who actually study the earth as opposed to the ignorant who pronounce without the slightest semblance of knowledge or experience. The movement is largely continuous and evidenced by thousands. I have seen it myself.So what should I believe? Direct evidence of tectonic movement between plates that I have personally seen over a few years or you?I think I will see that which God demonstrates directly over those who willfully deny the work of God for their personal ego and therefore violate the first commandment -- along with the one against bearing false witness.Troll?Edited by anglagard, : add a 'has' after Hollister claim to fame. I hate improper English usage although ESL is excusable.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

The absolute ignorance of this statement leaves me aghast.Look up the term "geochemistry" in Wikipedia, if you can't be bothered to visit a library.Signed - one with a BS in Geological Engineering and a Master's in categorizing knowledge. However, I do not have a PhD in geochemistry, even though it is offered by dozens of universities. Is that what I need to convince you the field exists?"Pearls for Swine" - Monty PythonEdited by anglagard, : At this point who cares? How damn stupid can you get?

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

I find your response completely incomprehensible, or in the vernacular, what the hell are you going on about?When I took sedimentology, chemical reactions seemed quite important as to what form the resultant ancient sediment would become.As for the field of paleontology, you do (or should) recognize that it is not limited to just dinosaurs, it also includes invertebrates, fungi, and bacteria, just as the sedimentology portion of the geosciences includes chemistry, physics, biology, and mathematics (and even English, in nations where it is the primary language).Edited by anglagard, : Last two paragraphs along with a period that is more properly a comma.Edited by anglagard, : Proper grammar, best be pure before being critical of othersEdited by anglagard, : third sentence added plus a few phrases

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen