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A Closer Look at Pat Robertson

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arachnophilia
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Message 20 of 160 (237595)
08-26-2005 11:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Faith
08-26-2005 11:34 PM

There's ALWAYS another side.
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there's always spin, you mean.
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crash has presented a pretty solid factual list of badness on the part of robertson, and from other sources i might add. this is not "i think pat robertson is a scumbag!" it's "he said this, he did this."
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Accusing ANYBODY of something without hearing that person's version of the story is unfair.
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and this thread exists so that if there is another side, it can be voiced. it is fair; this is a discussion site. the other side can ALWAYS be presented.
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so basically, stop complaining that the other side isn't being said, and SAY IT. otherwise, this discussion is my favourite kind of canned fish:
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arachnophilia
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08-27-2005 12:05 AM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Faith
08-26-2005 11:47 PM

What is the matter with you and everybody? I don't KNOW the other side. I don't KNOW about the diamond mine, either Pat Robertson's or diamond mines in general or political issues about diamond mines or anything at all. I don't know what he does with the money, I don't know how involved he is in it, I don't know anything. ... the spin is on YOUR side so far, I haven't spun anything.
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so, you don't know the other side, yet you're arguing for it? i'm not arguing for anything, except that you should know what you're talking about, and learn about the side you're defending -- not just blindly defend it.
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personally, i don't care much either way. but as it stands, sitting around saying "you're not giving the other side a chance!" is not the same as presenting that side. you're presenting anything, you're distracting from the actual debate. that's a red herring.
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either debate, or don't.
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Here's a proposition: It's always a good exercise to try to anticipate the opposition's possible defense.
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yes, that's fine. we're waiting for the defense to speak.
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But offhand owning something or being rich doesn't strike me as a heinous crime
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quote:
Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
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