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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I figured wetness is different from dusty dryness but if not then not. I'm conceding all points and exiting this thread. I got into it by merely making a quip I didn't even expect anyone to answer. I believe the Bible, you know, so I'm throwing out whatever crosses my mind to answer challenges. How it all works out with the calculations about meteors I have no idea, I just know it works out as the Bible says. If the calculations don't fit, the calculations need to be adjusted. Meanwhile I concede the particular points made here and bye for now.
{EDIT: "dust and debris" is a quote from the first article posted on this thread. This message has been edited by Faith, 05-27-2005 02:24 PM
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NosyNed Member Posts: 8996 From: Canada Joined: |
And that is why your worldview must never be allowed in a science class.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh I don't propose MY arguments for a science class. There are scientists who can do that work. And I also believe all Christians should pull their children out of the public schools and stop trying to influence them in any way whatever. You are welcome to them. A secular based education is wrong for Christians.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6486 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
So essentialy you agree that everyone on this thread has posed an accurate, solid, case that defeats yours. However, you refuse to except our position, and still cling to your defeated position?
I tell you the sky is blue, you say it's green, we go outside and I show you the sky. You say: "yep, you were right, it's blue. However I still say it's green, because I would like it to be so." Huh? This message has been edited by Yaro, 05-27-2005 02:27 PM
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I concede that I can't answer the calculations. I don't concede that they are right just because I can't answer them. Calculations are just calculations. They are hypothetical. There is no way to prove or disprove that they describe anything real that ever actually happened. But I can't answer them so I'm exiting. And by the way your link didn't go anywhere. I tried half a dozen times.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6486 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
It was a link refrencing bak to post 240 where I showed you those neat pictures of meteors. They are artists visualizations based on the data. These images are comissiond by NASA, and show the collisions to scale.
What do you think of those? At least 2 comets that large have definetly hit the earth in our past. How could Noah survive somethin that big?
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 979 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
Faith writes:
EXACTLY!! All of this is guesswork. ALL of it is guesswork. You are reduced to guesswork because of the complete lack of physical evidence -- the fatal flaw in you scenario - in ALL of your scenarios. You cannot provide us with any evidence on: how deep the water was, what the topography looked like, how the continents were arranged, how the flood deposited evaporites or that a flood even occurred, where the fountains of the deep were located and just how that water was stored there, that the seafloor dropped, that the plates moved at the rate of meters per second, etc. Everything you've state is opinion or baseless assertions - guesswork. What makes you a better opponent that other YECs is that you are incredibly intelligent AND creative. You are able to imagine all sorts of YEC fantasies and articulate them well over a messageboard. The fact is, you can question or poke as many holes as you want into our supporting evidence (at least we have some - LOTS of it!), but your doing so will never result in making your assertions the least bit more valid - garbage in, garbage out.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 979 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
That's the mentality of Creationists. It doesn't matter what they see with their own two eyes, the Bible is true.
Smacks of bibliolatry to me.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The pictures are like the calculations, hypothetical. Like drawings of evolution from one creature to another. All imagination. There is no evidence for such a huge hit. It's all calculated from a layer in the geo column, not from any actual knowledge of what actually happened.
But I'm trying to exit this thread. Goodbye. This message has been edited by Faith, 05-27-2005 02:55 PM
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Alasdair Member (Idle past 5740 days) Posts: 143 Joined: |
quote: Where have you been for the last 18 pages??
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6486 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
The pictures are like the calculations, hypothetical. Like drawings of evolution from one creature to another. All imagination. There is no evidence for such a huge hit. It's all calculated from a layer in the geo column, not from any actual knowledge of what actually happened. There is evidence for such a hit, that's how we know it happend. It's not hypothesis, because there is a freakin gigantic crater over in the Ycatan peninsula that just didn't come from nowhere. And if you are trying to say that these comets/meteors/etc. hit in one year during the time of noah, your gonna have to explain how objects as large as the ones depicted, somehow failed to wipe out Noah.
But I'm trying to exit this thread. Goodbye. Ufortunetly, I just don't think you can be let off that easy. Faith, one last question: Do you think it is possible for your possition to be wrong? I mean, could you possibly be wrong? This message has been edited by Yaro, 05-27-2005 03:02 PM
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6344 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
I still think it is possible Faith is a very good troll and is deriving huge enjoyment out of getting people to reply to the risible stuff she is throwing out in such copious amounts.
It's an amusing ride either way Oops! Wrong Planet
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NosyNed Member Posts: 8996 From: Canada Joined: |
There is no evidence for such a huge hit. It's all calculated from a layer in the geo column, not from any actual knowledge of what actually happened. There is, of course, a great deal of evidence for such a huge hit. A tiny portion of which has been referred to in this thread. Now that you are finished perhaps some other literalist would like to take up the challenge. More likely this thread will be like many of the dating threads where those who believe there is something wrong with the dating techniques avoid actually dealing with the challenge.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Do you think it is possible for your possition to be wrong? I mean, could you possibly be wrong? Of course I can be wrong, about most things on this thread even, but not wrong about the basic Biblical facts of the Flood and Noah, however it is to be understood to have happened in physical terms. I do laugh at the geo timetable explanation of the strata and fossils, I think it hilariously impossible on the face of it, but I can't prove anything about it. You either see it or you don't. Just plain jumbled "dirt" of one basic sediment or mixed sediments, a couple miles or more deep, with fossils in the same order as the geo column, would be more plausible for the evo/geo scenario, but clearly demarcated layers of different sediments? Nope, no millions of years marked off there. How funny. Those things are all the unprovables. The actual known facts on this thread are very scanty and inscrutable: Some iridium in 100 places, some other meteoritic type stuff found in two places so far, that shouldn't be able to survive earth's weathering for 250 m years, many craters of all sizes and conditions all over the globe, all indicative of meteors, certainly, but their actual effects remain unknown despite the best calculations, and the surface of the earth does not resemble the craters of the moon. Etc etc etc. Oh, the Yucatan hit? If it allowed anything to live, then Noah and company would have lived. This message has been edited by Faith, 05-27-2005 03:31 PM
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NosyNed Member Posts: 8996 From: Canada Joined: |
And if you are trying to say that these comets/meteors/etc. hit in one year during the time of noah, your gonna have to explain how objects as large as the ones depicted, somehow failed to wipe out Noah. Faith has agreed that they didn't happen in one year at a rate about 1 billion times the accepted rate. She now thinks that maybe it happened at "only" about 1 million times the accepted rate. Or maybe the position she has now arrived at is that these impacts didn't happen at all. Perhaps we can summarize the current literalist answer to the OP as: Since if these impacts happened the Bible would be wrong the only conclusion possible is that they didn't happen. This conclusion must be arrived at no matter what the evidence, physics and logic suggests. This is, of course, a valuable contribution. If all the literalists would take such a position then it might be a bit easier to keep this nonsense out of science classrooms. This is also precisely the position that the ICR and so-called "scientific" creationists take.
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