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Phat Member Posts: 18248 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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A couple came into the store the other night, whom we had caught--deterred from shoplifting before. She had the audacity to take items off the shelf(we had no photo proof,but saw the spots where the items used to be) and wanted to "rturn" them. He stole some expensive items from starbucks and went in to the bathroom with them, emerging with only his backpack. We are not security so we could not detain them. She appeared to be high on something such as amphetamine.
My point? Yes, we could be accused of profiling and no, we had no ironclad proof. Im not sure why I take it personally, but our store is on the verge of closing since we dont make enough money...and these people seem to me to be stealing from I myself. I would have them beaten if I could hire some thugs....thats how angry I feel towards them.
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Phat Member Posts: 18248 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
ringo writes: Im sure that some employees steal, but as far as I know, not many at my store---apart from a free fountain pop now and then. Does the "we" that does the estimating do their share of stealing too?
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ringo Member (Idle past 402 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
As PurpleDawn pointed out in Message 10, any busness can have a problem with employee theft, not just retail stores. ... Im sure that some employees steal, but as far as I know, not many at my store.... I had a supervisor tell me once that the most common thing employees steal is time. (Mind you, we were allowed to breathe on company time as long as it didn't interfere with our work.)
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Phat Member Posts: 18248 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I have been with the same chain now for 14 years, after getting my job back last December. They moved me to another store closer to the urban corridor of homeless people in town. I see a different sort of theft than I saw in the suburbs.
These people(the thieves, of all shapes sizes and backgrounds) brazenly come in, grab expensive items (to return later, presumably) and walk out the door! It's not like people even have a conscience anymore. My original complaint still stands--I fear we have a problem with a national sense of entitlement at each others expense! Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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ringo Member (Idle past 402 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Well, if you worship individual initiative, you're gonna see behaviour that favors the individual instead of the group. Crime is just the ultimate expression of free enterprise.
My original complaint still stands--I fear we have a problem with a national sense of entitlement at each others expense!
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Tangle Member Posts: 9486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Most low grade shoplifting - is that just a UK word? - funds drug or alcohol addiction. If they steal food they're generally street homeless too.
Occasionally you'll get organised stealing of small expensive goods - perfumes, electric razors, DVDs - they tend to be more organised, often in teams. Sense of entitlement? maybe. Also a sense if need.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh I wonder if it has anything to do with treating the Ten Commandments as so much trash? Along with Leftist entitlement politics of course.
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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Faith writes: Gosh I wonder if it has anything to do with treating the Ten Commandments as so much trash? Nope, it doesn't.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Faith writes: Gosh I wonder if it has anything to do with treating the Ten Commandments as so much trash? Not in my experience, generally it's much more earthly - addiction, homelessness, poverty, mental illness and very occasionally the devious and corrupt. In other words sad, mad and bad. All human life is here.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 724 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
No, Faith. Precolumbian Incas stole stuff on occasion. They knew not about Ten Commandments, and probably didn't have goats to seethe in their mother's milk anyway. Llamas, now - maybe.
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jar Member (Idle past 384 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Along with Leftist entitlement politics of course. Of course, what you call Leftist entitlement was what Jesus command us to do. It is also called compassion, empathy, charity, good manners, reasonableness, honesty; you know, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, shelter the homeless, protect the weak, teach the children. It's called Christianity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Jesus commanded us to do it, not governments. We are not to be forced to give, but to give because we want to. Government forces it on us.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Those who don't have the Ten Commandments are not held responsible for them, but we are because we had them and threw them away. Thou shalt not steal. Says God. Might stop some stealing.
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jar Member (Idle past 384 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: Jesus commanded us to do it, not governments. We are not to be forced to give, but to give because we want to. Government forces it on us. Bullshit. The Government does what the people want and what they cannot do except collectively. Jesus said fed the hungry. Period. If the way to do that is collectively then that is the right way to do it. Jesus said shelter the homeless. Period. If the way to do that is collectively then that is the right way to do it. Jesus said protect the weak. Period. If the way to do that is collectively then that is the right way to do it. Jesus said heal the sick. Period. If the way to do that is collectively then that is the right way to do it. Jesus said clothe the naked. Period. If the way to do that is collectively then that is the right way to do it. Government is simply a tool to let us work collectively.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I can't wait until you have to explain all that to Him. Boy is that going to be fun.
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