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Author Topic:   Don't turn my God-fearing kid gay!
gnojek
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Message 161 of 196 (204408)
05-02-2005 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by crashfrog
04-27-2005 10:34 PM


Sorry, dude, that show is about being gay, or how to be "Metrosexual"
which I guess is how to look gay but be straight.
I watched one episode of that show and I couldn't take it.
Way too gay, almost as bad as watching that movie The Birdcage.
After 10 minutes of that one, I was grabbing for the remote.
Eh, who cares?

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gnojek
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Message 162 of 196 (204409)
05-02-2005 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Trae
04-28-2005 12:20 AM


No, come on, it's got to be more like 1-2% realistically.
Out of every 100 people you meet, chances are that 1-2 are gay,
not 10-20. That's just too high.
And I guess it depends on where you live and who admits that they are gay.
I've known scores of gay people through life, but one recently is an interesting case. I know a chemistry department isn't any kind of cross-section of society or and kind of microcosm, but out of about 120 grad students, one was quite the closet homosexual.
He denied up and down that he was gay, but every indication pointed to the fact that he was. Actually, he wasn't so much in the closet as he was in denial. See, his family was extremely religious and so was he. I think this led him to his extreme denial. His psychological condition was so extreme that he had this problem with his own feces. He was staying with another grad student who walked in on poop smeared all over the walls in the bathroom. For some reason he also refused to clean it up. (???) Anyway, I know this story was pointless, except to say that it's hard to tell how many gays there are out there, but it's highly unlikely that it's more than a couple percent of the population.

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gnojek
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Message 163 of 196 (204411)
05-02-2005 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by joshua221
05-01-2005 12:13 PM


This "society" you speak of, when and where are the meetings?
Can I be a member?

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gnojek
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Message 164 of 196 (204412)
05-02-2005 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Phat
05-01-2005 12:47 PM


Re: What are you suggesting?
Nowadays mine do too.
But I think it has more to do with my dad's snoring and my mom's need for arctic temperatures.

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gnojek
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Message 165 of 196 (204413)
05-02-2005 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by joshua221
05-01-2005 6:41 PM


Except (at least) in ancient Greece (and maybe Rome) where it was quite normal.
edit:
Yes, but all this talk of normalcy leads down a slippery slope.
So since it was normal in Ancient Greece, does this mean that more people engaged in homosexual acts?
I would say based on the above post that they did.
Why can't this happen in modern "society"?
This only strengthens the argument against allowing gays to adopt.
It gives an example of homosexuality being a normal part of the culture and more people doing homosexual acts due simply to that.
This is what the christian right fears will happen.
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gnojek
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Message 166 of 196 (204417)
05-02-2005 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Stuco
04-22-2005 8:38 PM


Re: playing with fire
Here are a few webpages that say that the sin that made God destroy Sodom & Gemorrah was not homosexuality at all.
Forbidden
Homosexuality in the biblical book of Genesis: Sodom and Gomorrah
IWG Gaming – Blend In
Attention Required! | Cloudflare
Jeff Schult -- Tales from the Bitstream

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gnojek
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Message 175 of 196 (204662)
05-03-2005 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by nator
05-02-2005 10:41 PM


Uh, why?
Why is it 5%? 10-20%?
Do we have good statistics on these things? No.
It just seems unrealistic to assume that it is as high as 10%.
But reading this page lets you know how widely the numbers game ranges:
Family Research Institute » Page not found
I would take what this guy says:
quote:
"‘If everyone examines their own conscience, they know that more than one in 100 people is gay.... Common sense tells you this survey is nonsense,’ said Gregory King, spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign Fund, the nation’s largest homosexual rights group. ‘I feel the 10 percent figure is probably about right’ because many homosexuals fear to admit their sexual orientation, said Cathy Renna, co-chairwoman of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Againse Defamation."
and reverse it.
I would say that if you look at the people around you one in a hundred is gay, not one in ten.
One in ten is just too high.
If it's true then out of those 100 people around you 8-9 are closet gays. Sorry, that's too much.
Maybe if you live in San Francisco or something it might be higher,
but I have a hard time believeing that 80-90% of gay respondents to an anonymous survey are hiding the fact that they consider themselves gay.
And it depends on the survey and how questions are worded.
http://www.geocities.com/plusg1/facts_05.htm
quote:
The 1993 Janus Report, the first broad-scale scientific national survey on sexual behavior since Kinsey, concluded that 9% of males and 5% of females had had homosexual experiences more than just "occasionally."
The 1993 Yankelovich Monitor Survey, considered the first nationally representative survey to reflect what percentage of the population identified itself as homosexual, indicated that 5.7% described themselves as "gay/homosexual/lesbian."
The 1994 Sex in America Study Self-identified gay and bisexual men accounted for 2.8% of the surveyed respondents, while 1.4% of the women identified as lesbian or bisexual.
Er, why?
Cuz.
Mmm, why?
Cuz.
Gee, ya think?
Ya think ya can do a little better than this?
Give us some reasons why a figure of 10% must be true.
I have the same reasons that 1% must be more accurate.

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gnojek
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Message 195 of 196 (214588)
06-05-2005 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Trae
05-14-2005 10:33 PM


Ok, I said 1-2%.
So that would be a low end of 1 percent and a high end of double that.
So, maybe 1/2 of the couples are reporting?
Still doesn't rule out somewhere between 1-2%

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