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Topic: ICR Sues Texas
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Hi Archaeologist, Sorry that I had to suspend you. I'm hoping that you'll begin supporting your assertions when you return.
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Message 182 of 549 (577957)
08-31-2010 8:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 159 by Buzsaw 08-30-2010 8:56 PM
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Re: There is no Theory of Creation
Buzsaw writes: Dr Adequate, the only reason for bringing forth your responses to my pertinent points is to ask why you even bothered to respond and whether you have something besides substanceless yada to say supportive of your positions. The proper place to take problems with discussion is Report discussion problems here: No.2.
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Archaeologist Suspended 24 Hours
Hi Archaeologist, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to suspend you again. I've been trying to encourage you to make positive contributions to moving discussion constructively forward, but you instead continue to repeat the same assertions over and over again. For example, perhaps you have reasons for why you believe these things:
- "it is just that secularists want to determine what is or isn't science and that is not within their authority...the secularists need to remember that they do ot won the field of science and do not have the authority to say what is or isn't scientific work."
- "the process and theory are not scientific for the rules are altered to disallow objectivity and honesty and truth."
- "it is all bullying by the secularists."
- "plus secular science's methods are not designed to lookin the right places for the right answers, coupled with the fact that secular science has no interest in the truth or answers making it an act of futility."
If you do have evidence and argument supporting these beliefs then it is time to begin including them in your responses. In the absence of such support, please do not repeat these any more. Thanks.
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Reopening the Topic
Some of the messages are expressed in a way that makes it very difficult to tell what they're about at all, let alone whether they're on topic, but the discussion has for some time been focusing on the claim that what ICR wants Texas to provide accreditation for is not science. Edited by Admin, : Grammar.
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Message 496 of 549 (581172)
09-14-2010 7:57 AM
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Moderator On Duty
Usually Adminnemooseus is on duty in the wee hours (US), but I see no posts from him last night, so I'm going to do what I said I would do a couple days ago in Message 444:
Percy in Message 444 writes: Starting Tuesday, if there's still active discussion in this thread, I will begin moderating as Admin.
The topic is ICR's efforts to gain accreditation for their Masters degree program in science. The content of messages that do not address the topic will be hidden. Dawn Bertot's ideas do not appear to be related to the topic, so discussion of these ideas should end in this thread. Dawn Bertot, please enter a topic proposal for your ideas over at Proposed New Topics and I will work with you to promote it as quickly as possible. Edited by Admin, : Grammar.
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Message 507 of 549 (582561)
09-22-2010 5:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 506 by Nij 09-22-2010 4:25 AM
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Re: Deja Vu - The feeling this topic's been reopened before
There are no new developments that I am aware of, but I would like the thread to remain open in case of that eventuality. On-topic discussion may also continue. It was easy to think the thread had gone off-topic while we tried to understand Dawn Bertot's position, which is why Adminnemooseus closed it a couple times, but it eventually became clear that Dawn was advocating ideas of his own that, to the extent we understood them, were unrelated to the topic. --Percy
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Re: Deja Vu - The feeling this topic's been reopened before
Dawn Bertot writes: This in no way however is a slap in the face to the design argument, which of course supports itself If anywhere in this thread someone suggested that the denial of accreditation to ICR's master's program constituted a rejection of the design argument as described by you, then they were mistaken. Please do not mention your design arguments in this thread any more. They are off-topic.
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Re: Deja Vu - The feeling this topic's been reopened before
If I could clarify what I believe to be on topic... Discussion of how ICR might modify their curriculum to improve their chances of gaining accreditation in Texas is on topic. Dawn's ideas that involves "rules of evidence" and that asserts that things are "ordered of themselves" and so forth are all off-topic. Dawn is working on a topic proposal to discuss these ideas.
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Director Posts: 13035 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.0
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Moderator Request
Hi Dawn Bertot, Please cease participation in this thread and focus your energies on your The evidence for design and a designer thread proposal. I've removed your posting permissions in the Creation/Evolution In The News forum. Edited by Admin, : Accidentally called the forum as a thread. Edited by Admin, : Change title.
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