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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How do you get the Giggle to pick out only a particular set of critters and things, while ignoring all the others?
In this year of Giggles, how does Giggle number one just get the marine creatures, but not all marine creatures, only a small subset? How do you get the next Giggle to get the marine dinosaurs but not the marine mammals? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
In some cases a lot of things washed into same area, or, if the continents did slide, uppiled together as well in places And once again, how did these things get piled up in such a well ordered way? It isn't a "lot of things" washed into the same area. It is very specific things and not many other things. Why is that? Are you still saying it just happened that way?
trilobites with 'gradual changes'? Gradual in what way? time? No sir, don't think so. Gradual in the burial pattern in several layers all flood lain? Maybe The changes are gradual, that is small changes between one type and another. You may decide that all happened in a year or not. You can explain that next. The types are ordered within relatively older and newer layers. How did that happen? Just worked out that way in the big jiggle?
Maybe. It seems the big thing is in how you look at these things, and the ages you imagine, because, I think, of evolutionary conditioning! No wonder you almost choke on these things. You bring ages back again? Why? What differences does that make? Again all I think I see you saying so far is: A "big jiggle" happened. The pot was stirred, billions of living things died and were preserved by many different means and by pure good luck they layered down as the flood passed in a very specific order. (how specific is one of the big guns for later ). Have I covered your argument completely? Have I left anything out? Do you really say it was just luck that sorted them?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
By you, no. ha. Seems to me I remember Simple didn't have much to do with this thread either!
Ha ha, very funny, simple ran out ages ago. Do you think that constitutes any kind of real argument? If you want to discuss ages please, please go to Dates and Dating. We're being gentle right now. Dating will enter into it later.
Because by removing the old age assumptions it leaves us to look at things for an explanation within the context of the flood.
Good enough, explain the fossil ordering within the context of a flood. Again, is the random shuffle and good luck your whole explanation or did I miss something else? Your whole last paragraph seems to describe a "year of jiggles". So do we agree that your description of the flood makes it a pretty darn big deal? It was a real catastrophe? It was very chaotic? Big waves, big winds, big earthquakes? That is kinda what I've gathered from some creationists. Do you agree? And how did that order the fossils? Which you didn't touch on in this post at all.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Giggle can be very big. When he may decide to swash through the area, if one particular set of critters gets snagged, then so be it. quote:Perhaps giggle 1 was either first or last off the block, and his scooping success was not as great in variety, as say, giggle 4. quote:Did the dinos and mammals in question always hang together? It would seem not, because at one particular hour, as giggle 8 rushed through, the poor giggle had only snagged the dinos.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Oh, I thought somehow maybe he was not allowed to post in the main forums, or something like that. I guess it was his cowardness, rather than your evo bigoted heavy handdedness that was at play there.ha. quote:Cosmic forces brought into play. Huricanes, big wind, cyclones, whirlpools, chemicals, sliding continents, fountains of the deep erupting. Waves, volcanoes, quakes, electrical storms, possibly sun activity, and maybe even water from space. But chaotic? No, Highly organized by the creator. Why do you ask?
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If you look at the examples I gave, they were all Marine species. So if a wave is going through the water it should get everything. So back to my question...
How did the giggle get just the marine dinosaurs and not the marine mammals? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
No, Highly organized by the creator. Why do you ask?
Oh, really? Highly organized? In what way? I had asked what you explanation was. It was the jiggles that shook everything into place. Is that not the explanation? You didn't answer the questions about that. Why not?
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simple  Inactive Member |
Not all jiggles were waves. What if you had say a massive plnge into deeper water of a little mountain, or a mountain of mud? As it knifed through the water, covering many dinos, in, say a half a mile wide swarth. The area it covered had dinos, in this jiggle.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
I guess it was his cowardness, rather than your evo bigoted heavy handdedness that was at play there.ha. If one follows the guidelines (even with some pretty large exceptions) one is allowed to continue posting. If the guidelines were applied even handedly there would be very few creo's left. If you think that someone has been cut off for something other than not following the guidelines I'm sure you can take that to the appropriate thread. In the meantime, no inuendoes that you can't back up.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How did it get just the marine dinos and not any of the marine mammals?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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simple  Inactive Member |
Jiggles was a loose term covering any big flood event. Organized in what way? In the way that the operation was overseen by God Himself. Organized to make sure we made it, and that nothing else did. Organized in thT He had His hand on all the levers of creation (and then some!) needed, be they cosmic cooling, or heating. Be it water coming in to earth, or needing to be taken away! You name it, it was under control! The chaos comes in the mind of those who try to leave the raison d'etre out of the picture.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
Not all jiggles were waves. What if you had say a massive plnge into deeper water of a little mountain, or a mountain of mud? As it knifed through the water, covering many dinos, in, say a half a mile wide swarth. The area it covered had dinos, in this jiggle. And you explantion is that this happened every single time? That it happened with a lot of different kinds of living things in lots of different places. Not only that it only mixed things like dino's in one layer and no such things lower or higher? Please be clear on exactly what you are saying happened. You haven't done that yet. It isn't that there haven't been individual mudslides or what have you. It is that you have to explain all the layers for the whole globe. Is your explanation that all these landslides, earth quakes etc just happened to order them this way. (btw, we will get to the exact nature and timing of the order later)? Don't keep throwing out little "what if"s that might happen once or twice and here and there and then pretend that 1,000,000's of these happened in just the right way. All I see so far is that is what you suggest. Again, have I missed something?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
The chaos comes in the mind of those who try to leave the raison d'etre out of the picture.
Ok, God organized it to be sure that everything not in the ark died and that the ark was missed by all the massive events. What does that have to do with the fossil ordering?
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simple  Inactive Member |
I thought you had the inuendo that this 'simple' ran away in terror from your superior logic! I guess he was just a cowardly guideline breaker. I guess if the guy wanted, he could come back and take it up on the thread here. ha.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:He also would have organized the temperature in the world not cooking everyone, if continents did slide quickly, that the ensueing ice age would not freeze everyone, that the plants were going to all be ok, and a host of other things, every detail. The fossil 'ordering' would have resulted from the orders of the Orderer. I've tried to come up with a few things that could have helped with the ordering. But, it seems underlying this, really, you just want to try to give glory to the fossil order to a godless evolving over great time? And hold that up as some grat model so superior, it's disdainful.? Come on now, out of the grass, and try to strike, we're getting up near 300 posts!
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