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Vapour canopy and fountains of the deep

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Message 67 of 144 (507576)
05-06-2009 2:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 63 by Peg
05-06-2009 4:33 AM

Re: bump for creationist contribution
Why don't you just say it was magic? God made water appear then disappear. Why do you always try to find some kind of scientific proof when it is doomed to fail? I thought you only needed faith with religion.
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Son
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05-06-2009 3:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 68 by Rahvin
05-06-2009 2:21 PM

Re: bump for creationist contribution
Personnaly I'm atheist. I just got the impression that fundamentalist never needed proof or a scientific explanation for anything anyway. So I was wondering why they needed a scientific explanation for the flood if they didn't need it for their god. It just seems strange to me.
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If we have no objective manner of differentiating fantasy from reality in this way, why arbitrarily have faith in this particular magical fairy tale, but not any other magical fairy tale from other religions?
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My personnal answer would be to not believe in any of the fairy tales. I can't answer for one who believes in a deity though.
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Why don't we simply have faith in any and every fantasy we come up with, since corroboration with objective reality is apparently unimportant anyway?
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While I can't claim to understand religious people, the fairy tale they believe in will depend on their education and they can't choose several at the same time since they are often contradictory. I suppose It's easier to just believe what you are taught than trying to think.
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05-08-2009 3:38 AM 		Reply to: Message 90 by Peg
05-08-2009 2:05 AM

Re: Troll Alert?
While i understand you haven't learnt chemistry in class, I think you should try to learn a bit before writing.
How do you think fuel cell work? And where would scientists take the hydrogen to make water?
Hint: Hydrogen - Wikipedia
wikipedia writes:
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Elemental hydrogen is relatively rare on Earth. Industrial production is from hydrocarbons
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And wiki again: Hydrogen vehicle - Wikipedia
wikipedia writes:
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In fuel-cell conversion, the hydrogen is reacted with oxygen to produce water and electricity, the latter being used to power an electric traction motor.
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Meaning that 2H + O = H2O + Energy
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While I just did the research for you here, it would be nice if you did it yourself next time. It's a bit annoying to deal with your ignorance while debating, it wastes everyone's time.
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05-08-2009 9:24 AM 		Reply to: Message 97 by Percy
05-08-2009 8:37 AM

Re: bump for creationist contribution
I wondered if we could agree to ask Peg to anwser the water/hydrogen posts first. I'm asking that because in my opinion, those questions are the easiest and fastest to answer. Since Peg seems to lack some basic knowledge of physics, it would be easier to explain that to avoid further misunderstandings and wastes of time.
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After all, if we can't agree about highschool level physics, we won't get very far in the debate I think.
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Message 118 of 144 (507955)
05-09-2009 7:12 AM 		Reply to: Message 113 by Peg
05-09-2009 6:02 AM

Re: bump for creationist contribution
Just so we are clear,you do understand now why we can't create water, right?
I would like you to answer because it seems like you still haven't understood what everyone said .
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