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Hyroglyphx
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Message 136 of 191 (451827)
01-28-2008 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by nator
01-28-2008 6:18 PM


Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
Should I be watching what I say?

Apparently everyone seems to think so, nator, which accounts for the tip-toeing around.

I think I'll just consign myself to chat.


“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis
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Message 137 of 191 (451837)
01-28-2008 8:27 PM


Restating what should be obvious by now...
EvC Forum's primary purpose is to promote constructive dialogue between the two sides in the creation/evolution controversy. Those who don't share that goal do not have the right to make things difficult for those who do.


--Percy
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Buzsaw
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Message 138 of 191 (451838)
01-28-2008 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by nator
01-28-2008 6:18 PM


nator writes:

So Dan is too threatening, now? He's on the list of undesireables?
Gee, is the fact that I am still unhappy with the pogrom you have enacted make my days here numbered too, percy?

Should I be watching what I say?

I don't think anyone needs worry so long as they do the revised thing of debating the issues. Get over the bickering and get doing the EvC thing the man has designed the site for.

Most agree change and improvement was needed. If we move on and get with the new program we can all make a good thing better. :cool:

We all need to come to realization that this is going to be a new improved sight for all members who are willing to conform to the changes.

It appears it's going to be a bonafide fair and balanced site for all willing to accept the improvements regardless of ideology. :cool:

New members are going to come for the debates and hopefully find a site humming along in a manner that makes them want to come in and participate. They're already registering. Let's debate with them and amongst ourselves in a manner that will be spirited, pleasant, edifying and interesting. :cool:

Edited by Buzsaw, : spelling


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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iano
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Message 139 of 191 (451839)
01-28-2008 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Hyroglyphx
01-28-2008 7:13 PM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
Juggs writes:

Apparently everyone seems to think so, nator, which accounts for the tip-toeing around.

Schrafs okay. You obviously just ain't never seen a picture of Schraf. Admin IS human...


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arachnophilia
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Message 140 of 191 (451856)
01-28-2008 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Admin
01-28-2008 8:27 PM


Re: Restating what should be obvious by now...
EvC Forum's primary purpose is to promote constructive dialogue between the two sides in the creation/evolution controversy. Those who don't share that goal do not have the right to make things difficult for those who do.

percy, with all due respect, asking that moderation be fair and just is the first step in promoting constructive dialoge between the two sides of the creation/evolution controversy.


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arachnophilia
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Message 141 of 191 (451857)
01-28-2008 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by iano
01-28-2008 8:32 PM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
Schrafs okay. You obviously just ain't never seen a picture of Schraf. Admin IS human...

you're second person in a week who's commented on schraf's looks. am i the only person who values having these people around for what they contribute to the discussion?


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Message 142 of 191 (451861)
01-28-2008 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by arachnophilia
01-28-2008 10:22 PM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
I must admit. I am worried too.

Dan gets the boot, Amen gets privileges restored.

Brenna gets the boot, NJ never loses his privileges.

Perhaps if brenna, Ringo, Omni, Dan, jar -- am I forgetting anyone? -- apologize to Percy, they too will have their privileges restored.

After all, NJ got booted twice, apologized twice and here he is. I can only assume Amen apologized as well after his spam rant.


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arachnophilia
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Message 143 of 191 (451868)
01-28-2008 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by molbiogirl
01-28-2008 10:47 PM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
i am starting to suspect that percy has intentionally thinned out the "evolutionist" ranks to more balance the debate participant-wise.
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Buzsaw
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Message 144 of 191 (451879)
01-29-2008 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by arachnophilia
01-28-2008 11:06 PM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
arachnophilia writes:

i am starting to suspect that percy has intentionally thinned out the "evolutionist" ranks to more balance the debate participant-wise.

Perhaps some (I say some) have been have been too dominant filling up the threads with responses having little edifying and significant substance, too often with intent to antagonize.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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arachnophilia
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Message 145 of 191 (451882)
01-29-2008 12:25 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Buzsaw
01-29-2008 12:18 AM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
Perhaps some (I say some) have been have been too dominant filling up the threads with responses having little edifying and significant substance, too often with intent to antagonize.

i'm not sure that's a good reason to whip out the ban-stick.


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Message 146 of 191 (451884)
01-29-2008 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by arachnophilia
01-29-2008 12:25 AM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
Arachnophilla writes
i am starting to suspect that percy has intentionally thinned out the "evolutionist" ranks to more balance the debate participant-wise.
Buzz responds
Perhaps some (I say some) have been have been too dominant filling up the threads with responses having little edifying and significant substance, too often with intent to antagonize.
Arachnophilla then says
i'm not sure that's a good reason to whip out the ban-stick.
Hill Billy thinks to himself
Yikes , I hope that Archno guy is rite.
Oh no. Did I say that out loud?

Seems I picked exactly the wrong time to come ridin in on my big ol white horse to defend some of those poor little creationists.


"Some people spout bullshit just to hear their own heads rattle" Grampa Frame.
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arachnophilia
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Message 147 of 191 (451885)
01-29-2008 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by Hill Billy
01-29-2008 1:00 AM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
i don't think participation here should be contingent on ideological basis, or on subjective worth/lack of redundancy of posts.


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nator
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Message 148 of 191 (451914)
01-29-2008 7:38 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by randman
01-28-2008 6:25 PM


Re: oh sure, I can already see the quality improvement
quote:
We could just ban all the creationists and IDers or maybe except a handful? Is that better?

Heavens, no, you (utterly predictably) misrepresent me.

The people who should be banned (or stay banned, as it were) are the people who do not seem to be able or willing to follow the forum guidelines.

...the guidelines which, in part, state:

8. Avoid any form of misrepresentation.

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Message 149 of 191 (451915)
01-29-2008 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Hyroglyphx
01-28-2008 7:13 PM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
Should I be watching what I say?

quote:
Apparently everyone seems to think so, nator, which accounts for the tip-toeing around.

I think I'll just consign myself to chat.


Personally, I don't plan on watching what I say at all. Not in this "new" way, anyhow.

If Percy wants to ban me for criticizing his actions, and thus show himself to be no better than any of the Creationist board moderators, then so be it.


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nator
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Message 150 of 191 (451916)
01-29-2008 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Buzsaw
01-29-2008 12:18 AM


Re: Indisensable liberties aren't for sale
quote:
Perhaps some (I say some) have been have been too dominant filling up the threads with responses having little edifying and significant substance, too often with intent to antagonize.

So what?


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