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Coragyps
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Message 1 of 18 (34970)
03-22-2003 4:30 PM


This thread is here for buzsaw to present a few of the "many evidences" that he has claimed to have for a global, Noah-style flood.

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Message 2 of 18 (34987)
03-23-2003 5:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coragyps
03-22-2003 4:30 PM


Don't hold your breath.

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Message 3 of 18 (35003)
03-23-2003 10:55 AM
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03-22-2003 4:30 PM


Would there be any objection to changing the title of the thread to "Evidence for the Great Flood"?
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Coragyps
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Message 4 of 18 (35004)
03-23-2003 1:16 PM
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No objection, but I'll be a little surprised if we need the thread at all.

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Message 5 of 18 (35005)
03-23-2003 1:55 PM


Title has been changed from "Evidence for the Big One?" to "Evidence for the Great Flood".
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Message 6 of 18 (35366)
03-26-2003 7:17 PM
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03-23-2003 1:55 PM


The difference between Robert Blake and the worldwide flood is that the flood left no evidence its crime.

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Coragyps
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Message 7 of 18 (35367)
03-26-2003 7:44 PM
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03-22-2003 4:30 PM


Buzsaw, are you there?

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Message 8 of 18 (35372)
03-26-2003 10:19 PM
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03-26-2003 7:44 PM


Buzsaw, are you there?
Buz Buzzed off maybe?

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Coragyps
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Message 9 of 18 (35817)
03-30-2003 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coragyps
03-22-2003 4:30 PM


Buz?
buzsaw, I see you're still around. I'm still waiting.

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peeberoni2
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Message 10 of 18 (35911)
03-31-2003 10:12 AM


Evidence for the great flood?
Quick flood burial would be the only way that so many dinosaurs and other things could have been fossilized in rock that way scientists have found them. The saltwater shells found in the black sea date back to 6500 years, while the freshwater shells date to 7000 years and older. Thus, we know that there was a sudden and dramatic change from a freshwater lake to a salt water sea 7000 years ago.
Doing a report on evidence for the great flood. Update yall if I get any more info.
peeberoni

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Mister Pamboli
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Message 11 of 18 (35912)
03-31-2003 10:25 AM
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03-31-2003 10:12 AM


quote:
Quick flood burial would be the only way that so many dinosaurs and other things could have been fossilized in rock that way scientists have found them.
Why?

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John
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Message 12 of 18 (35913)
03-31-2003 10:26 AM
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03-31-2003 10:12 AM


Somewhere around the end of the last ice age an natural barrier seperating the Black Sea from the ocean broke and the region flooded with sea water.
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Coragyps
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Message 13 of 18 (35916)
03-31-2003 10:48 AM
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03-31-2003 10:12 AM


Quick flood burial would be the only way that so many dinosaurs and other things could have been fossilized in rock that way scientists have found them.
But one Big Flood burial would absolutely prevent all those fossils from appearing "in rock that way scientists have found them." It's been well established since about 1815 or so that the segregation of various fossils into their often unique strata is incompatible with a "young earth." Yes, there are fossils in some spots that were buried by local floods, but there are many, many more - coal beds, for instance, or limestones - that were deposited gradually in calm environments.
And as John said - the Black Sea fill-up was a local event. It may have given rise to the oral tradition that became the Gilgamesh and then the Noah stories, and I'm sure it was real serious to the people who were flooded out, but it wasn't worldwide.
Try your library for the book "Noah's Flood" by Ryan and Pitman.
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The_Search
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Message 14 of 18 (37240)
04-17-2003 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coragyps
03-22-2003 4:30 PM


Evidence?
I recently heard a creationist arguing that on every square inch of the planet there is flood sediment atleast a mile thick, I was wondering about the validity of the argument (not being an expert on geology myself).
And just incase you were wondering it was in an email I recieved from a fellow at the Creation Science Resource (Northwest Creation Network)

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Coragyps
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Message 15 of 18 (37242)
04-17-2003 10:42 PM
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04-17-2003 9:49 PM


Re: Evidence?
That assertion is untrue: the Canadian Shield is just one example of a large (half of Canada!) region that's pretty much devoid of any sediment at all. The rocks in the whole region are metamorphic or igneous, and I defy any creationist to get Flood sediments metamorphosed and cooled again in 4500 years!
And in places like here in West Texas, where the geologic column is mostly sediment, it can hardly be construed as flood sediment. 6500 feet beneath Snyder there is the Canyon Reef, a coral reef about 300 to 600 feet thick. Reefs don't grow that thick in a year or two. The 6500 feet between the Reef and me is made up of multiple layers of limestones, dolomites, and shales, with a little sandstone up near the top. Limestones like these form by slow "rain" of shells of marine plankton from non-muddy, calm seas; the dolomites form when rainwater (falling on other than a sea, obviously) carries dissolved magnesium down to percolate through the previously laid limestone. Not a quick process, either, and there are limestones above dolomites - it couldn't have all happened "post-Flood." This whole area was alternately a shallow sea and dry land, several times as each, of very long periods of time.

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