How do they know?

If you have any question about math, just post it in the coffee place. I am a math wiz. Just don't ask anything about literature. I had to hit my head with a hammer all 4 years in high school to get out of my english classes alive.

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no, it is.it's just that math cannot accurately describe the natural world in every detail, and accurately predict events within minute tolerances. simply put, no formula ever perfectly describes nature.

Do you know anything about multi-dimensional constructs, Lam? I had a brief exchange with Rrhain a while back in these three posts. Unfortunately, I think he missed the last one. It's a topic of great interest to me so if you can help out or there's anything you think you can add, please feel free.Thanks for your time, Lam.

Unfortunately, the only times that I had ever been able to visualize anything beyond 3-D were the times when I got really high. Believe me, I have been trying understand it myself for as long as I can remember.So, no, I'm in the same boat as you are. I once had a physics professor who lost much of his hair just trying to explain to us how gravity works in 4 dimension.Sorry I couldn't help.

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Me too, my friend. Me too.Just out of curiosity, were you serious about seeing beyond 3D by getting high or was it just a joke? Sorry for such a dumb question but I can't tell. It's cool.To be honest, I didn't really expect you to be able to help me with the "visualizing" part anyway. To this day, Rrhain is the only person I've ever come across who says they can do it. That isn't to say there aren't others, of course. Just none that I'm aware of.If there's anything you'd like to add, though, by all means, feel free. It doesn't have to be specifically about "visualizing" higher dimensions. It's all good. Perhaps I should start a thread for it. It's not exactly an EvC topic, though. Peripherally, I guess, but it isn't really the focus of the forum.Anyway, thanks for your reply, Lam. It's a fascinating topic, even for a mathematical layman like me. One of my most frustrating traits is my tendency to be drawn to concepts that I have little to no hope of ever understanding. And for years now, this has been the one that tops my list.

Thanks for your offer, but I've had two algebra tutors walk out on me saying I was hopeless and lots of other math horror stories. However, you don't need to worry about me begging for literature assistance because that's about the only acedemic subject I'm good at next to history. Still, PE and lunch are easily the best classes .

Ok, I'll stick my neck out really far just for you.Although I've gotten high only several times, at least one of those times I actually thought I knew what a 4-D object look like.There was another time when I thought I was able to visualize 4-D. I was on a trip with some friends. Didn't get much sleep for 3 days straight. When I finally got back, a friend of mine asked for my help on a physics problem. Now, at this point, any person who is not me would tell that friend to go to someone else. However, if you know me personally, then you would know that I almost never ever say no to anyone about anything... it's something that I need to fix. Anyhow, when I was solving the problem on a piece of paper, I dozed off, and for that split moment 4-D space became very clear to me.In other words, I have only been able to visualize anything beyond 3-D during semi-sleep/semi-awake state.By the way, just in case any FBI agent is reading this to monitor for criminal confessions, I only got high like 3 times in all my life. Only been drunk twice. I destroyed all the evidence and killed everyone there after each time. The friends that were with me to make sure I didn't do anything stupid during my visit to the lalaland are also dead. So, don't waste any tax dollar trying to find evidence to prosecute me. I can always fly back to Viet Nam, you know.

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Actually, this is the only thing I can brag about. I was a math tutor all 4 years of my high school career. My proudest moment was finding out that I successfully helped someone to bring a failing grade up to a C+. She ended up with a B- for the semester. Let just say that I spent about an hour a day on average with her during the weekdays and like 3 hours per weekend. I kinda felt bad having to break the news to her that I was gay after she asked me out.Anyway, I wish the best of mind.Edited:PS- PE was a piece of cake. Lunch was boring.This message has been edited by Lam, 07-17-2004 12:07 AM

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hhmm GODLESS homasexshul furriner...talkin' bout killin' people and doing drugs...and...flying over our country... frantically looking for number of local homeland security office

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I'm that way myself. It can be quite a pain in the ass. Yep, I know how that goes. My record for going without sleep (that's without any sleep at all) is a solid 72 hours. Actually, I'm not sure of the exact hour count (as I was a little groggy, by that time) but I know it was at least three days straight.Unfortunately, it didn't help me understand higher dimensions any better, I'm afraid. Do you recall anything specific about what you saw, or visualized? Or simply that it became clear? But you have done it. That makes two people that I know of.The reason I ask is because my exchange with Rrhain, brief as it was, rekindled my interest in this topic big time! I had long since given it up as impossible. Indeed everything that I read seemed to confirm this.In fact, I seem to recall Hawking himself saying in A Brief History of Time something to the effect of, "Don't bother trying to imagine it. It's impossible for us three dimensional creatures to comprehend." At that point, I was already at my wit's end so I figured, if that's what the man in the Lucasian chair says, I may as well just accept it and move on.But when I found that there was at least one person who could do it, I suddenly became very motivated again. Heh, the FBI can't touch me, I've never been high or drunk. I'm such a goodie-two-shoes!Still, I guess if you suddenly go missing from the forum now, we'll know what happened. Heh, just kidding.Seriously, thanks for your help, Lam. I appreciate this!

You are missing my point. My point is that those revelations of 4-D were not really revelations at all. A better description of them would be hallucinations.It became clear to me at the time, but after that I realized that even god was an obvious fact to me when I was in such a sleep deprived, hallucinative state.

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Hmm...Ok, I think I get you. I apologize for misunderstanding. Just to clarify...Do you believe that what you saw (hallucination or not) was an accurate vision of four dimensions, or do you believe that your hallucinatory state simply made you think that what you saw was four dimensions?I hope I'm not coming off as a troll or anything. I'm just trying to clarify things as best as I can. I can be somewhat overly analytical at times and I don't wish to frustrate anyone. I'm sincerely interested in getting this clear, in my mind, and I don't mean to be an annoyance.Thanks again for your help, Lam.

Mr Jack,I guess it depends on how you define "dry". I remember at school the definition of a desert was a place with little to no available liquid water, meaning permafrost tundra qualifies, too.Mark

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By the way, just in case any FBI agent is reading this to monitor for criminal confessions, I only got high like 3 times in all my life. Only been drunk twice. I destroyed all the evidence and killed everyone there after each time. The friends that were with me to make sure I didn't do anything stupid during my visit to the lalaland are also dead. So, don't waste any tax dollar trying to find evidence to prosecute me. I can always fly back to Viet Nam, you know.

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You only wounded me, I recovered. Still you’re safe. It was a head wound and a bite on my inner thigh, the result being I have no actual memory of the events. I do have my notes, but they’re sandwiched in-between the account of a chameleon and that the Chinese traveled to New England just before Columbus made it to the Bahamas.The chameleon taught me that if one tracks the path of a serpent (he didn’t say what type) for three days in yards, then divide by 7 cubits (old style and not modern) and convert the whole number as celestial inches you wind up with the same exact measurement that one has to go from the great pyramid to take a dump without the smell offending the lead architect.We know that the Chinese made it to New England because I saw there’s a book about it and no publisher would let someone get away with a lie that big. Plus the writer isn’t a professional scientist so he doesn’t have to let bias or methodology get in the way of finding the truth. He even found an observatory in New England which he’s proved with experiments that the Chinese used to determine longitude. This only goes to show how advanced these Chinese adventurers were, since none of the other Chinese sailors used longitude for hundreds of years after this time. All the other scientists are just trying to shut him down by claiming that the observatory is historically known to be a windmill. This guy is amazing; he’s even determined there’s a genetic link between American Indians and people from Asia!I almost missed that you had done drugs, but there was the proof in my very own writings. Sandwiched between those two accounts was the following.5IN5IN. Could the signs be any clearer? It must be part of the Bible Code. Consider the evidence. It looks like SIN and what’s the one book we can trust on the topic of sin? Why that can be no other book than the Bible. Take away the 5 and you have IN. So again we’re being mystically directed to look IN the Bible. But could their be more? IN, why that must mean In New. Yes we have to look in the new part of the Bible. So we have 5IN, that’s 5 and two letters. If you use 5 for each letter then you have 10. J is the tenth letter of the Alphabet, so that’s more divine revelation to look in the Gospel of John. Since we used the 5 we have to move onto the next codebit, I. I is the roman numeral for 1 and so obviously we have to look at John 1:x. I is also the second codebit, adding this in we have John 1:2x. We simply can’t dismiss the third codebit of N, so that must be our final needed verse number. N is the 14th letter in the Alphabet. If you add 1 and 4 together you wind up with, hold your breath, 5, the first codebit. If you divide the third codebit by 7, God’s holy number of days, you get 2, the second codebit. I’m not making this stuff up. You can do the math yourself. If you subtract two for the second bit you wind up with 12, the number of apostles. If you look at the Alphabet, O is the fourth vowel and the gospel of John is the fourth book of the Bible. You can’t just make up coincidences like this. Even more telling, O is the vowel that follows N. I know if some mathematician related to creationist website was to do this math the odds would be astronomical.So we’ve now know our answer is in John 1:29. But we don’t know what version. We seem to have conflicting influences pulling us. That 5IN is sandwiched between the Chinese in New England and the Chameleon accounts would at first glance seem to be at odds. But I know many people in Central and South America have had mystic visions with reptiles, and since we know that those countries are predominately Catholic I think we can with a high degree of certainty say we need to look at the Catholic Bible. Now, I realize that this evidence isn’t as solid as my other evidence, but I ask that you look at the work as a whole and not try to pick apart any one part of it. Now the Catholic Bible assertion would be a bit weak if it were our only reference, but after emailing a renown scientist who has heard parts of the Bible, he has reminded me that I have a second piece of evidence. Remember the Chinese? Remember where they went, that’s right, New England. New England, is named after what? Why England and where was the King James Bible written, England. So there we have the divine code revealed.So let’s look at the verse:John 1:29 Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.Now we know that Jesus didn’t always want everyone to understand what he meant and so he used parables and we know from the Bible Code that there are other messages in the Bible.5INTake the first codebit, 5. Now take the first 5 words of John 1:29.Behold the Lamb of God.5IN is three bits. So take the third word.Lamb.5IN is three bits. So take the first three letters.LamCan it be clearer? Isn’t the Bible amazing?We know scribes often made mistakes like running two word together. So what does the rest read?Behold the Lam b of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.Now we know that Lam doesn’t take away the sin of the world. But we also know the Bible is infallible no matter what is done to it, or who does it. So what could sin mean? Wait sin = 5IN as we proved earlier. So sin has more than one meaning.Now everyone always tells people on these boards not to use circular reasoning. So to really prove this we have to go outside of the Bible, preferably to a primary source. Let’s use Lam’s own words. I only got high like 3 times in all my life. Only been drunk twice.He’s only been drunk twice and high three times. Wait that’s 5 times, just like 5IN predicts. Even more proof. An I word to allow a sin would be intoxicant which fits perfectly with an N word of Narcotic.John 1:29 Behold the Lam b of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.Even b of God and of the world make sense. B of God clearly refers to the EvC Forum, a Board of (concerning) God. World = WWW.The evidence is overwhelming. 5IN is the exact amount, no more or less of the times that Lam committed these types of sins in his admission on the Board of God [EvC].Even more surprising is the secondary interpretation of the passage.John 1:29 Behold the Lam b of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.Behold Lam who on the board of God, removes that which distorts the minds of others on the WWW.With evidence like this, how can anyone not believe?

I thought you lived in Louisiana married to your sister But seriously, you sounded so much like a guy I once lived with. You're not Hugh O'conner are you?

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