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quote: This is a very important point, because when this story was first written, they would have had no idea Aborigines existed. But what difference does it make if they knew about them or not if the flood was real? Should their knowledge of the world around them have affected the stories in any way? No, it should not have, because we are told the author was writing about facts. Yet, despite the fact that the author had no idea there were Aborigines when he wrote his story, God didn't seem to either. And when talking about how many animals there were in the world, God seemed to only know about as many animals in the world as the authors at that time. If I didn't know any better, I would say someone just made it up based on what they knew of the world at the time It reminds me of the group that believes there is a race of people at the centre of the earth, an idea that came around the early 17th century. To quote from SkepDics.com:
quote: He spent most of his life gathering believers, and one of them being John Symmes :
quote: After all this time, follower after follower put their own spin on the tale, some changing their names and starting cults based around it (Cyrus Read Teed for example). Finally, after all this time, after all these believers, after stories of people actually GOING to the center of the earth and confirming it was real:
quote: The myths never matched up with what we knew about the world today, and those who believe in this story have suddenly become very few. This is just another case where the story created by the original author was based purely on the fact that nobody could DISPROVE the story at the time, and when we have the technology and the evidence to show their claims are false, there are still some out there who believe the government is hiding the truth, or that they missed it (despite the entrances being 4,000 and 6,000 miles wide) So is the power of refusing to believe you were wrong.
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I think part of the reason this thread is not getting much activity is because the thread title is quite broad. So far we have been focusing on the discussion of other cultures who lived at the time of the flood who should have been wiped out, and I think that the thread title should reflect that. (it might get a bit more traffic then). I propose that, should the OP or the staff have the ability to edit the thread title, that we change it to something more fitting like:
*Cultures who survived the flood *A world wide flood that Australia never heard of? *Underwater Aborigines? =P
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quote: HA! Good point =) This thread seems to be very quite from the Creationist side. Anyone care to have a swipe at some of the posts so far?
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HAHA! So it's true. We have underwater Aborigines in Australia ^_^
I also like how that quote says the water was covering "all the high mountains under the entire heavens", and then in the next passage Genesis 7:20 it says
quote: Man, we must have had some small hills back then
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quote: God creating the universe and Noah making the ark are two completely different matters. And is the ark impossible? According to the evidence put forth this in this thread, YES
quote:1) In some ways, it could be a miracle, as long as you can prove it happened outside the reason 'because the bible said so' 2) I can do this at home as a party trick quote:1) yes, it is a miracle, as long as you can prove it happened outside the reason 'because the bible said so' quote: Well since you HAVE found him, then you must have answers, at least according to your theory. Care to debunk the evidence put forth in this thread then?
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--Boolean Well since you HAVE found him, then you must have answers, at least according to your theory. Care to debunk the evidence put forth in this thread then? --Brokenpride not really... You mean you can't, or you don’t want to? If you can't explain it, why is that? If you don't want to explain, I suggest not posting in this thread unless you have something to contribute, lest it wander off topic. ---- So, back on topic - I looked up some information on how long Aborigines are to have lived in Australia, and even at the most conservative widely-accepted timeline found that the first arrival to Australia is between 40,000 - 50,000 years ago, with the average falling around near 30,000 years. Even assuming they got the facts wrong, and we divide that number in two, they were still most defiantly alive at the time of the flood. We can even assume that they were so horribly off the mark, that we divide that number in half again, giving us 7500 years, defiantly still around at the time of the flood. The most important early sites in Australia are:Nauwalabila (55,000 - 60,000 years old) Malakanunja (45,000 - 61,000 years old) Devil's Lair (45,000 years old) Lake Mungo (61,000 or 40,000 years old) Lake Mungo is the only site which has come under suggestions that the date may not be accurate; it is suggested that it should be 40,000 years old, not 61,000 years old. Hardly anywhere the suggestion that all sites would have to be a mere 4000 years old. So how do flood supporters account for this? I asked a Christian friend of mine today how he could account for the Aborigines living at the same time as the flood, and in fact before God was even supposed to have created man (but that’s another thread for another day), and he replied ”well we can’t be sure they were alive more than 4000 years ago’. I told him that these dates were achieved using Thermoluminescence, which despite only being around 15% accurate for a single sample, can be used as definite means to get an idea within a few thousand years of a date with enough samples. So far, even under the heaviest of criticism, the dates of the Aborigines migration to Australia lands absolutely no where near 4000 years. At this point he said “yeah look, I have no idea”.
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