Does The Flood Add up?

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Satellite pictures have shown the Ark with exact dimensions described in the Bible. There is a Scientist couple who had the passion to search for it. They actually went there to Mount Ararat and have collected evidence. He lives in my town. I want to locate them and meet them. A Question for everyone: Why would that structure sit on a mountain with snow covered all over if it was not for the flood?

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There is a natural phenomenon of the brain called pareidollia, which causes familiar shapes to be formed out of randomness. This effect causes animals to be seen in clouds and the "face" on mars. This effect also contributes to virgin marys and jesuses to be seen in a wide variety of mediums from grilled cheese sandwiches to wood to glass and so forth. Pareidollia is why that feature looks Ark shaped to you.
BTW, the wood would have either disintegrated or weathered away by now and the glaciation of these mountains would have destroyed any boats a long time ago, it wouldn't look boat shaped even if it was there.This message has been edited by CACTUSJACKmankin, 04-26-2006 09:51 PM

Yes, the ice could preserve whatever would be left of the ark,as a result of erosion and decomposition, after it would be destroyed by the retreating and advancing glaciation. There would only be some wood left and the major point is that any remains would not be boat shaped and they certainly wouldn't form a boat-shaped depression in the glacier.There's probably no wood anywhere on that mountain, cause the flood never happened. A global flood would leave a flobal, uniform, geologic deposit layer, which doesn't exist. Also, There can't be two of every animal and a single human family, they'd have gone extinct from the genetic problems caused by tens of generations of inbreeding. In ecology, a population with good genetic diversity is known as a breeding population, that requires several thousand individuals. Try fitting 5,000 of each animal on a boat no matter how loosely you define a kind. The genetic and biologic nail in the coffin is population bottlenecks. A bottleneck is when a species goes through a period of low numbers. Having only two would qualify as a severe and irreparable bottleneck. Bottlenecks show up in the genes, and animals that have recent bottlenecks have them at different times, not the same time as Noah's story would predict. Pandas have their bottleneck at 34,000 years ago and we have one 70,000 years ago. The uniform Geologic layer and the universal bottlenecking are two pieces of physical evidence that would exist if Noah's story happened, and neither occur. This never happened.This message has been edited by CACTUSJACKmankin, 04-28-2006 07:18 AMThis message has been edited by CACTUSJACKmankin, 04-28-2006 07:20 AM

"You can deny that the flood never occured. There are ancient civilizations around the world which were destroyed. They have historical literatures which do not even have any references to the Bible. So, either these records are wrong or you are wrong. Both cannot be true. Good try."Almost all civilizations lived on a floodplain or the coast of some body of water. So, each of these civilizations recording a major aquatic disaster is not surprising.Could you at least address my scientific criticisms. Two pieces of physical evidence. Why are they not there? No flood layer and no bottlenecking in the genes.
Those are just the physical evidences, there is so much wrong with this story. Genetic problems from inbreeding, fitting two of every species on a boat (there are an estimated 10 million species on the planet), feeding the animals, exposing animals from all different climates to the same temperature and humidity, reseeding the earth (trees take decades to reach adult size, what about the arborial animals?), redistribution of species (if Noah misplaced any they'd have died out), and Aquatic species can only survive in a specific range of salinities, the rain would have diluted the oceans(putting marine species in serious danger) and when the ocean waters hit the lakes it would have killed the freshwater species.

"I met a man who claimed that many years ago, a 2 mile radius space ship landed and sucked him inside. The aliens gave him a physical exam and took away a part of his body. They also told him that they would return. I asked him if he ever watched Startrek. He said that he watches it all the time."I don't know how this is relevant, pareidolia is part of how the brain processes information. Your eye picks up random shapes and your brain interperates them as familiar shapes i.e. shapes in the clouds. Pareidolia would not cause an alien abduction experience, that could be Hypnagogia or sleep paralysis (brain wakes up before the body does)."I have also seen pictures of Mars in many published books. There are some structures similar to pyramids. I do not know if these are real or artifacts. If they are real, who made them? OR how did they come into existence. I do not have the answers. I am still skeptical about these pictures. Unless I have solid evidences, I am still skeptical."
I have seen photos of all kinds of "alleged" structures, it's nothing but random formations on the martian surface. The "face" on mars is actually a hill, but the way that light hits it, it appears to resemble a face. A great example of pareidolia."You cannot compare Noah's ark with such information which are yet to be verified. Noah's ark will one day be verified and authenticated. Till then, we cannot prejudge anything."
That glacial "ark" is just a random depression in the ice, it looks ark shaped because of pareidolia. The ark has never been verified to exist. Plus, as I have stated in previous posts, the whole story of Noah as interperated literally is impossible. No global flood, no two of every species, no single human family."Yes, it seems you are suffering from another disorder in which you will not believe anything even if solid evidence is presented to you."
What solid evidence? Please show me how that story is possible, and you still haven't addressed any of my scientific criticisms!!!

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When Moses went to the mount Moriah, people became impatient as he was absent for 40 days. This is when they built CALFS from Gold. This is when Hinduism began. It was sometime 5000 BC. In South india, there was one piece of land extending from South Africa to Philippines and then to the south pole. They all spoke TAMIL, one of the oldest langauges. History of this language even cites the date of the flood. The entire geopraphy of the world changed. This is historical record. When this was written, there was no Bible. No one even knew what Judaism was. Challenging the flood or trying to explain this away does not change human history. Flood occured.

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I'm sure this is the result of extensive historical evidence! Did a fat guy get kicked off the ark and form buddhism? Where do the races of man come from? what biblical story can you squeeze and distort to explain native americans? Speaking of native americans, how can you give any weight to a "global flood" when the people who told this story for thousands of years didn't know about the americas? Do you think they knew what it meant to flood the planet when they didn't know about the size or the shape of the earth? Would they have thought "two of everything" reasonable if they spent five minutes in the rain forest? This story makes sense to people living 5,000 years ago, today in the year 2006 with all of the science and technology we have it's just silly.