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Author Topic:   The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)
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Message 23 of 299 (285776)
02-10-2006 11:28 PM
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02-10-2006 1:15 PM


Re: setting the record straight
For example, Muslims wanted the Jews because they felt usury and thus banking was inappropiate for a Muslim. So yea, they welcomed the Jews, but not as equals.
they bank. they just don't charge for loans.
how very tolerant of you to state this in this manner.

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Message 73 of 299 (289619)
02-22-2006 6:39 PM


source material
i was doing some searching on amazon for a paper i'm writing on genocide and mistakenly was directed to this list. it is, however, relevant here.
amazon list on 'understanding christianity's violent tendencies"

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Message 92 of 299 (334639)
07-23-2006 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by inkorrekt
07-08-2006 2:11 AM


Re: setting the record straight
if you're going to say "islamo" make it one word and stop looking stupid. islamofascist is a word. islamo fascist is gook. if you want two words, use islamic fascist.
you can't eve get your own language right and you expect to understand something written in another language?
and yes, wahabis are fucking scary. i've read milestones. have you? but that doesn't mean their beliefs have any basis in reality.
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Message 144 of 299 (335200)
07-25-2006 2:51 PM
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07-25-2006 2:12 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
you probably have some bizarre concept of evangelical that keeps your "kind" free of stain.
however, he never said the word evangelical.
and christianity as a whole has one of the longest histories of oppression of others ever. they even had issues killing themselves. oh england has a catholic king now... lets kill some protestants and of course burn some quakers. oh england has a protestant king now. let's kill some catholics and burn a few more quakers. and don't even get me started on the mess in spain with catholics, protestants, jews, muslims, fucking everybody.

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Message 146 of 299 (335223)
07-25-2006 4:01 PM
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07-25-2006 3:28 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
i'm not ignorant of the types of christianity that have existed. he said nothing about evangelicals and you're splitting ass hairs.

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Message 148 of 299 (335226)
07-25-2006 4:14 PM
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07-25-2006 4:07 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
One group for well over 1000 years advocated religious liberty and separation of Church and State
that may well be, but he was talking about how for just under two thousand years christians of all strokes have been killing and oppressing those of different faiths. for you to bring in some special little difference that somehow separates your happy little group from the rest means dick all.
and btw. find me one evangelical that supports the separation of church and state today.

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Message 150 of 299 (335235)
07-25-2006 4:48 PM
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07-25-2006 4:22 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
Yea, and that was a lie (though probably honestly believed) because obviously Christians of all stroked have not been killing and oppressing those of different faiths, and specifically Christians from year 33 AD to 350 AD or thereabouts did not persecute other faiths, and Christians today and for the past several hundred years have not persecuted other faiths in general, except for some minor aberrations like Ireland and even there it was not exclusively religious in nature.
you mean like catholics in rwanda that supported the german-made mythology of the superiority of tutsis and eventually led to the genocide of such?
or the german christians who supported the nazi regime?
or the american christians who still support the oppression of non-whites?
or south american catholics who are still oppressing the indigenous peoples?
or american christians who are oppressing anyone who claims christ but doesn't have his head up the religious right's ass?
or christians worldwide who are calling for the destruction of all things islam?
or christians worldwide who are participating in the aids genocide in africa because jesus doesn't love people who use condoms? particularly evangelicals.
now i am the first person to say that it is not the christian faith that causes this, but the crazy peple who profess it. but that doesn't change the reality that christians have been and will continue to be a driving force of hate and intolerance worldwide.

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Message 157 of 299 (335251)
07-25-2006 5:21 PM
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07-25-2006 4:54 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
they have the right to disagree with me. they don't have the right to pass laws to restrict my freedoms based on their misinformed view of both scripture and the constitution.

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Message 167 of 299 (335332)
07-25-2006 11:37 PM
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07-25-2006 10:07 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
exactly.

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Message 291 of 299 (414211)
08-03-2007 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by inkorrekt
08-03-2007 12:38 AM


Re: We're just better, dammit!
We were attacked 10 times during 1990's. what did we do? Nothing except that the President sent missiles and killed 2000 innocent civilians in Bosnia which was unnecessary, but was important to the President who had to distract the news from Monica Lewinsky.
i think you need to educate youself on what happened before and after those missiles in bosnia. the truth is that there was a serious air campaign in KOSOVO as a result of actions by serbs there which mirrored the actions by the serbs in the war in bosnia between 1992-1995. the administration and nato forces determined that they would not permit further repeated genocide. 8,000 people were killed in the srebrenica massacre (the legally defined bosnian genocide). this number does not include the numbers of women who were raped or the men who suffered in concentration camps. there were thousands of other deaths during this conflict including over 3,500 children. this site lists 200,000 muslim civilian deaths.
if clinton had not attacked serbian positions, this would have been repeated in kosovo.
if you think saving 200,000 lives is unnecessary, i think you should reconsider your priorities.
So, we must stay in Iraq for many years for our own security as well as good economy.
what does iraq have to do with 9/11?
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