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Author Topic:   The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)
ikabod
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Message 138 of 299 (335082)
07-25-2006 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by randman
07-24-2006 5:50 PM


Re: Is that an acceptable standard?
The simple fact is Jesus never implored his followers to persecute unbelievers, but Mohammed did and so does mainstream Islam.
in fact during the arab comquest of egypt and the near east the life of many christians and jews vastly improved under islamic rule .. was they where no longer killed as herictics and such by the western chritian church .
as followers of the book OT xians and jews had to pay small tax , and where then free to follow their own creed , this is why there there are pockets of xian in odd places across the arabic world .
as to conflicts due to "spreading the word" do islam and xianity have a history of very agreesive tactics .
islam suffers in that it is the religion of many nation states that are still emerging from the shadow of colonial and empiral pasts , iraq is a artificial state created by the western powers , the whole israel lebenon isssue is fall out from western action / inaction and historic interrferance ... islam in many cases is the only glue that holds the people together as a " nation " when in fact they may be ethnically diverse ...and as is allways the war those who seek power will use any political , religious creed to rally the troops ....
oddly many of the so called arabic fundermentalist islamic clerics are well travelled and have visisted the west as part of the world wide islam community .. the fact that they then reject the values of the west is prehaps worth noting ..
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ikabod
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Posts: 365
From: UK
Joined: 03-13-2006


Message 172 of 299 (335364)
07-26-2006 3:52 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by randman
07-25-2006 5:17 PM


Re: wrong analysis
what many seem to be missing is that the "nations that contain nthese so called violrent islamist are areasof conflict even if you discount ant religion ..... the whole israel arab states conflict date back to the invasion of the jewish tribes taking others lands ... thus you end up with two populations both claiming the same land .. result conflict never mind adding religion in to the mix
iraq made up of a number of historically hostile factions kept in control by dictatorship and force
sudan and much of the horn of africa are colonical countries in which the imperial power played off the differing tribal fgactions to keep control .. most where areas of conflict before and have remained so after the colonial power has left .. result more conflict
the fact that islam is the religion of the areas simple means that islam becomes invoiled in the conflic=t and is used as a tool to control and direct the population by those in and or seeking power ....remember in many of these nation education is very poor ..just as in european medievil history .. it is the clerics that are educated and take major roles in power and nation building .
BTW as an example of how a religion can become tied up in a conflict even in the modern western world look at the past 100 years of irish history .. conflict where both sides claimed to be serving god .. with bombs and murder ..
if conflict exists the local religion is drawn in .....

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