The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)

Do they care about gay people who want to get married? Do they care about children getting a useful education instead of creationist claptrap?If that's all the "experience" you have, you need to get out more.

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They care about gay people, but much of the religious right thinks homosexuality is a sin and so their form of caring may come off as bigotry to others, as the caring of someone from the RR could be to try to help the gay individual to renounce his homosexuality and seek therapy and help from God in becoming heterosexual or perhaps asexual.But it's a complicated issue. There are also plenty that think homosxuality is wrong, but at the same time, have gay friends just as they have non-Christian friends or friends with various sins, and so they would help the gay friend just the same and maybe never bring up the gay issue with them.There are still others that may doubt whether homosexuality is wrong, and others still that think homosexuality is OK, that homosexuals are borne that way, and that the scriptural condemnations of homosexuality are the result of cultural attitudes being added with more godly and divine thoughts (the idea being the Bible contains the word of God but is not all the word of God).

So I could show "caring" for a religious-right-winger by "helping" him to renounce his false religion and seeking therapy and help from God in becoming liberal or perhaps apolitical? It isn't about bringing up the "gay issue" with your friends. It's about oppressing all gay people by denying them the rights that everybody else enjoys. Are you still talking about the religious right? If so, they should be speaking out against the oppression espoused by their brethern.

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You could be, but imo, you would be misguided, but that's the good thing about a free country. People can have differing opinions and don't have to resort to denigrating the other person's motives.

But that's exactly what the religious right is doing - not only denigrating the motives of those who disagree with them but actively campaigning to oppress gays, children, etc.

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They are not oppressing anyone. That's just BS.

Denying rights is not oppression? Forcing ignorance on children is not oppression? What definition of "oppression" are you using?

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No, they don't oppress people. They have different political views from you.

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...which causes them to limit many of my and others' freedoms on the basis of their religious beliefs.I call that oppression.

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What is unAmerican is for you to demonize legitimate political differences as oppression.

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When it is oppression, I call it oppression.There is no reasonable secular legal, constitutional reason to block the release of emergency contraception. The only reason to block it is to impose one's own religious views upon everyone else.

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The truth is the Left is far more "oppressive" under those standards. They propose taking more money from people via higher taxes,

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...to provide services that everyone uses and needs, like the military, infrastructure like roads, police and firefighers and EMT's, national wilderness areas and parklands, public schools, etc.I would be happy to pay MORE taxes if the rich paid their fair share. But they currently do not pay their fair share. Their overall tax burden as a percentage of their income is proportionaltely lower than what the middle class pays.

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and this includes the poor as well as the rich (gas taxes and FICA).

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If rich people paid their fair share of taxes, the middle class and the poor wouldn't be getting poorer like they are now, and the right wouldn't be able to be continuing to become richer, like they are now.

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They propose all sorts of safety laws oppressing people.....heck, they even "oppress" children by demanding they wear helmets when biking.
get the drift.....

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That is hardly the same kind of thing and you know it.

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The RR is not oppressing anyone.

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If there were a small group of Conservative, radical Jews that became powerful in the US, and they started to pass laws which restricted the sale of pork, would you consider them to be oppressing the majority of US citizens who dod not follow Jewish dietary laws?

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They believe outlawing abortion is, for example, saving a life. So the motive is saving a life, not oppression.

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Motive matters not at all in deciding if it is oppression or not.Those nice Jewish people I mentioned above just want all of us to follow God's law. They are doing us a favor by banning all pork in the US. They are only concerned about our eternal souls, so it's not oppression.Right?

So confiscating your money, limiting what you can do, etc, etc,....is not oppression, but somehow trying to protect babies from being brutally murdered is?There's not much more to discuss shraf. imo, the RR is fighting for basic human rights, such as the right to live, and you are fighting for the right to continue to brutally slaughter babies that are viable outside of the womb, and want to confiscate poor people's retirement money (FICA) and waste it on government programs, defraud black landowners in SC for open space requirements and other "oppressive measures", if such political differences count as oppression.Edited by randman, : No reason given.

No rights are being denied whatsoever. That's total crap.

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If there were a small group of Conservative, radical Jews that became powerful in the US, and they started to pass laws which restricted the sale of pork, would you consider them to be oppressing the majority of US citizens who do not follow Jewish dietary laws?

The right of a person to marry the person of his or her choice is being denied. Good-hearted people are trying to remedy that situation, just as they tried to remedy the whites-only bathroom situation a few decades ago. The religious right is working hard to keep the discrimination entrenched.The religious right is also trying to deny children the right to a good education by forcing creationist drivel into the schools.

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Did you see the rally they had recently in London? I saw all the posters. Most of them said," Islam is the religion of the world". Anyone who insults Islam will be executed.What do you read in Surah 33-35? Does it not tell you what you should do to the Infidels? The suicide bombers on 911 read Koran before murdering 3000 innocent people on 911.You can deny the facts. Look around the world. Wherever there is irrational murder, there is always a muslim behind this. All muslims are not terrorists. But, all Terrorists are Muslims. Is this not true?Whether you like it or not, atime is coming when we all the non muslims will be asked to convert to Islam. If we refused, our heads would be cut off. This day is coming.

Was Hitler a Muslim? Was Jeffrey Dahmer a Muslim? Was Timothy McVeigh a Muslim? Obviously not.

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