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Author Topic:   The historical Jesus didn't create a new religion!
greyseal
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Message 4 of 21 (522189)
09-01-2009 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by andersbranderud
09-26-2008 2:57 PM


less copypasta, more topic
Hi,
If you're going to copy wholesale from websites propounding the ideas from a small, orthodox jewish sect that most jews don't agree with, you really should say so a bit clearer - but I see that you copy, from a copy, from a copy...
Your topic though is interesting - as far as I can tell, Jesus didn't exist.
As for your "Ribi Yehoshua" ("rabbi Yehoshua"), so far all I can find are pretty much verbatim copies of your text (so you're not the only one with copypasta disease) and HIS existence seems to be more than a little suspect too.
This doesn't generally impress me, and quite frankly I'd have a real hard time wading through the years of research it could take to find out what all the fuss is about.
Have you got something, somewhere, that's distilled enough to share?
Edited by greyseal, : No reason given.

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greyseal
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Posts: 464
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Message 18 of 21 (539881)
12-20-2009 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by FullCircle
11-27-2009 2:00 AM


Re: wow...
How can you look at the past 2000 years of human history and say that Jesus didn't live? That's ignorant, friend.
ignorant? really? to ask for proof of the existence of a person who allegedly did so much but managed to leave so little evidence?
We have nothing he made, nothing he wrote. We do not know where he was born or where he died. We do not have his body and we don't have those of his relatives. We have no records of his existence, no third-party records (save that collected together, both canon and non, in what we now call "the bible"). We don't know when he was born or when he lived. If he caused a revolution in his own time there is no record of that. We don't even have his death-warrant by the person or persons who are said to have condemned him.
Is it so much to ask for some proof?
I'm assuming you have something else than the bible?
We don't need real people to change the way society thinks - the church of the jedi's proves that. Co$ and it's madness proves that.
We don't need real things to have happened to create cults and religions - mormons prove that (sorry, Mormons, but a magic hat and rock? seriously?).
Muhammed lived, we know that. We know where he lived, where he died, what he looked like (despite muslim's violent tendencies about pictures nowadays, there are many pictures made in antiquity of the man). His claim to being a prophet is something else that is essentially unprovable except through faith, and in that he's very similar to any historical Jesus.

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