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Author Topic:   Origins of the Judeo-Christian god and religion
Buzsaw
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Message 196 of 282 (309517)
05-05-2006 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by purpledawn
05-05-2006 1:45 PM


Re: False Gods
PD writes:
But where does the Bible clearly support that they were false gods?
It is clearly supported by implication. There are scriptures in both the OT and NT which allude to the true God such as I Thessalonians 1:9 where Paul admonishes, "turn from idols to the true god."
Also Jeremiah 10:10: "But Jehovah is the true god; he is the living god, and an everlasting king; at his wrath the earth trembles; and the nations are not able to abide his indignation."

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 245 of 282 (309731)
05-06-2006 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by arachnophilia
05-05-2006 11:17 PM


Re: False Gods
Arach writes:
i'm sure the idea that other gods are not real can easily be defended with some later passages in the bible (we just don't see it in the older texts, however). the one i'm interested in is the position faith brought up:
It's also in II Chronicles 15:3 regarding Israel's departure from the true god, hardly a latter text, being sometime in the nineth century BC. Jeremiah is only about three centuries later.
Arach writes:
she believes at least some of them are real, just demonic in origin. can either of you find anything that would justify this position?
Check out I Timothy 4:1, which addresses the incidence of seducing demonic spirits relative to false doctrines. This clearly implicates also the false gods of those false religious doctrines.
I Timothy 4:1 writes:
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;..........

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 249 of 282 (309736)
05-06-2006 3:26 PM


Having not read the whole thread, I'm not fully apprised on what's been covered. I'm wondering if the credibility of the Biblical record has been addressed relative to the topic title and OP.
After all, the origin of the Judeo-Christian god and religion hinges a lot on the credibility of that Biblical record. Though there are debates on some of this history, much of the Biblical record has been verified by archeological discoveries. The more verifications, the more credible the history. Thus the more info we have as to the question posed in the topic.
Of course, the prevailing secularist agenda in academia has the natural tendency to promote their agendas. The remarkable discovery of the chariot wheels, et al in the Gulf Of Aqaba, which has been debunked by secularists even though secularist scientists have thus far declined to even research the site along with the corroborating evidence in the region is a classic example of this bias.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 262 of 282 (309853)
05-06-2006 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by lfen
05-06-2006 4:04 PM


Re: Personal Attacks Off Topic
Ifen writes:
As long as it fits his pre judgements there is no evidence too flimsy or riduculous for him and on the other hand he will bend, cut, and mutilate any argument to get it to fit his foregone conclusion. In short Buz knows what he knows. Knows how to repeat it ad nauseum over the course of years. That is sum total his concept of evidence, logic, and argument.
Personally attacks are off topic here and everywhere, the last I heard. The same could be said about some of you people, but I have the decency and enough regard for Forum Guidelines to abstain from these personal attacks. Please stick to attacking the issues and not the messenger. Where were you when the evidence of the Chariot wheels and corroborating evidence was discussed? If you were there, you nor anyone else certainly did not empirically debunk the substantial evidence presented on that topic by me, Lysimachus and others.

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