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Author Topic:   Fresh Problem with the Ark
Juhrahnimo
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Message 301 of 328 (177389)
01-15-2005 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by CK
01-15-2005 10:42 PM


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Hmmm. No different than what some of your people are saying. For example, "how did life begin?" is eventually answered, "we don't know how, we just know it did." That's just the dark side version of saying "God did it."
CK writes:
...rather than trying and made up some stuff you clearly don't understand.
Three fingers pointing back at you, dude. You have absolutely no idea how life began. You only know "it did".
And to which post can you direct me when I said stuff I "made up?" You went totally "clueless" on me when you visualized the naked breast thing, so I'm guessing have yet to understand a single word I've said.
I'm using quotes and information from God's word. I've been accused of trying have absolute knowledge, but falsely. God's word says that all men are sinful; that's not me saying that. Are you paying any attention at all, or are you just interested in performing cheap shots and sniping?

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Message 302 of 328 (177390)
01-15-2005 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by creationfan
01-15-2005 10:57 PM


Re: Noah's Ark Answers solved (just joking)
We have Why only one Grand Canyon which discusses the Grand Canyon and I'm sure there are many more in this forum. Please take any discussion of the Grand Canyon to an appropriate thread.

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Juhrahnimo
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Message 303 of 328 (177391)
01-15-2005 11:02 PM
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01-15-2005 10:57 PM


Re: Noah's Ark Answers solved (just joking)
You go, CF! Keep talking about what it looked like AFTER God was finished with it, rather than what laws of physics he ignored in order to do it. Love ya, man.

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RAZD
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Message 304 of 328 (177392)
01-15-2005 11:03 PM
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01-15-2005 10:57 PM


Re: Noah's Ark Answers solved (just joking)
this is not about the grand canyon it is about the ark and fresh water )and the fact of the grand canyon is that the water flow you talk about would have gone around it instead. you lack of geology is also showing).
there are forums about the grand canyon if you want to pursue this further.

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CK
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Message 305 of 328 (177394)
01-15-2005 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Juhrahnimo
01-15-2005 10:59 PM


Re: ...
quote:
Three fingers pointing back at you, dude. You have absolutely no idea how life began. You only know "it did".
And to which post can you direct me when I said stuff I "made up?" You went totally "clueless" on me when you visualized the naked breast thing, so I'm guessing have yet to understand a single word I've said.
Maybe you want to work on your basic reading skills before you accuse me of being "clueless"?
quote:
Are you paying any attention at all
Quite clearly you aren't - LMAO
Why? because you didn't even notice that that was a reply to A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON.
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NosyNed
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Message 306 of 328 (177395)
01-15-2005 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by creationfan
01-15-2005 10:50 PM


Re: Noah's Ark Answers solved (just joking)
What do you mean by "provable"? When that is used loosely in science it means that there is no better explanation for what we see.
You seem to think you know something here or you wouldn't be saying "It is not.". Since you think you know something why aren't you in the dates and dating and biological evolution fora other topics in here showing what is wrong with the dating correlations, explaining biogeography and telling us how the fossils got sorted?
You seem to think that you will gain something by making statements and avoiding any place where you could back them up. That is sooooo typical.

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creationfan
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Message 307 of 328 (177396)
01-15-2005 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Juhrahnimo
01-15-2005 10:59 PM


Re: ...
"And to which post can you direct me when I said stuff I "made up?" You went totally "clueless" on me when you visualized the naked breast thing, so I'm guessing have yet to understand a single word I've said.
I'm using quotes and information from God's word. I've been accused of trying have absolute knowledge, but falsely. God's word says that all men are sinful; that's not me saying that. Are you paying any attention at all, or are you just interested in performing cheap shots and sniping?"
Thanks it's great to see that I'm not going at this alone.
These guys want us to prove all this stuff, now it's there turn. How did amphibians evolve into reptiles when there eggs are completely differant?

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Message 308 of 328 (177397)
01-15-2005 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Juhrahnimo
01-15-2005 10:59 PM


The difference between "GDI" and "I don't know"
That's just the dark side version of saying "God did it."
There is one HUGE difference. The GDI "answer" pretends to actually know and the inquiry stops. The "I don't know" view allows for continued effort to actually find an answer.
The GDI answer has failed over and over throughout history. The "I don't know-- let's see if we can figure it out" approach has been spectacularly successful.
We don't know what comes next or if we will run into a limit of what we can figure out but based on our past experience I think I know which horse I will bet on in this race.

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creationfan
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Message 309 of 328 (177399)
01-15-2005 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 307 by creationfan
01-15-2005 11:06 PM


Re: ...
I know it's in the wrong area(you are all very big on that) but I'm sick of having to defend my faith while others mock us blindly accepting their own.

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Message 310 of 328 (177400)
01-15-2005 11:10 PM
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01-15-2005 11:06 PM


Stick to the topic
These guys want us to prove all this stuff, now it's there turn. How did amphibians evolve into reptiles when there eggs are completely differant?
This would make an excellent "Biological Evolution" thread. I suggest that you propose a new topic and it can be discussed.

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CK
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Message 311 of 328 (177403)
01-15-2005 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 307 by creationfan
01-15-2005 11:06 PM


Re: ...
It is over THERE.
THEIR turn
THEIR Eggs.

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RAZD
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Message 312 of 328 (177404)
01-15-2005 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by creationfan
01-15-2005 10:50 PM


Re: Noah's Ark Answers solved (just joking)
creationfan writes:
Now there is a stupid request, No one here today was there but God and he wrote it down for us. But no one was there to see animals "evolve" over "millions" of years either, yet that is supposed to be proveable. It is not.
stupid? thanks. being called stupid by someone who cannot understand the problems involve is really refreshing.
the evidence of fossils supports evolution, the evidence of ring species supports evolution, no one needed to "be there" to see it happen to know how it works. versus a total lack of evidence for events that supposedly were observed?
Well aren't you chock full of stupid request today, I said this twice already. Many carnivores today will eat plants if the need comes about, do you deny that?
Carnivores have been observed eating plant material in little bits for some specific reasons, but not making a full diet of it for extended periods of time. ANd for the length of time that the ark was afloat? yes I do. ANd you still have not answered the problem of the fresh kept separate from the sewage.
Oh gee -- that is the topic?

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Message 313 of 328 (177405)
01-15-2005 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 309 by creationfan
01-15-2005 11:09 PM


Multiple fora around here
Creationfan,
There is very little "mocking of faith" done around here in the science forums. No one here has any problem with you "believing" anything you want, but if you are going to bring up sciencelike answers in a science forum you will be called on it every time.
We have religious fora here where faith, believe and the bible can be discussed and yes, there are going to be people who do not believe what you believe, or do not believe how you believe.
You will find a wide range of religious beliefs on this board and a wide range of science knowledge and any number of combinations of the two.
If you want to discuss the Grand Canyon please take it to an appropriate forum. If you want to discuss whether or not evolution or creationism is science, please take it to an appropriate forum. If you want to discuss your faith and beliefs, please...well you get the idea.

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creationfan
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Message 314 of 328 (177406)
01-15-2005 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 310 by AdminNosy
01-15-2005 11:10 PM


Re: Stick to the topic
Sure, I was just curious why Creationist are the only ones defending here. I know, what is the real reason you don't want to believe in the flood? Is it because your scared of the possibility of God's future judgement(revelation).

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Juhrahnimo
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Message 315 of 328 (177409)
01-15-2005 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by NosyNed
01-15-2005 11:07 PM


Blast it,
Ned, I knew someone would say that, but I never thought it would be you (I thought you were far too smart, honest). So, despite my respect for you, I must quickly dismantle your poor concept.
First:
The GDI "answer" pretends to actually know and the inquiry stops.
Sorry, but that doesn't fly. The wonders of God are infinite; I have yet to cease from being amazed by the secrets that continue to reveal themselves from God's word and Science (I've been at it for 27 years now, with no end in sight). The inquiry never stops. The problem is when we try to put God into a box; when we try to explain the universe from INSIDE the universe (like trying to explain a computer from INSIDE the computer, with NO knowledge of what exists OUTSIDE the computer). No, the inquiry continues. I wish you could experience and understand this reality.
Ned writes:
The GDI answer has failed over and over throughout history.
Ummm... WHAT? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Doesn't even make sense. Not even as a bold statement.
As for your horse, my advice is: Don't bet on horses.
But now we're off topic.

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