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Rahvin
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Message 421 of 517 (639837)
11-04-2011 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 420 by crashfrog
11-04-2011 11:05 AM


Re: Possessor's eye evolution topic
Possessor certainly has some major misconceptions about the evolutionary process in general...but he did do a far better job in his response than the single- or double-liner proposals we've seen from him previously.
I'd actually like to debate with him in the freckle topic as he laid it out, as opposed to the existing evolution-of-the-eye thread. They may share the same general topic, but the specifics would be significantly different given his statements on what evolves when and from what.

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Message 422 of 517 (644029)
12-14-2011 9:50 AM


My Problem With The Bible...
My Problem With The Bible...
The moderators are right that the OP is too unfocused for a good debate, but I don't get the feeling that the author is looking for an argument.
PD says "This is a debate board, not religious counseling.", but I don't think that should stop us from having interesting conversations with each other.
I didn't see that either moderator offered that the OP could be placed in the Coffee House or even the Free For All.
If some of us just want to converse, I don't think the non-debating-ness of it should prevent us from doing that, especially when there's forums that allow for it.

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Message 423 of 517 (644030)
12-14-2011 10:00 AM
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12-14-2011 9:50 AM


Re: My Problem With The Bible...
Anyone can begin Coffee House threads. You could start a topic there where you link to Cyber Prince's thread, then comment on it. If a focused discussion emerges the thread can always be moved to a discussion forum.

--Percy
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nwr
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Message 424 of 517 (645414)
12-26-2011 9:41 PM


Help me understand the non-literallist position
A quick comment on the PNT (Help me understand the non-literallist position).
AdminPD suggested two other threads that are in Bible Study. But I had thought that Taz was proposing a discussion that would better fit in Comparative Religions.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 425 of 517 (646682)
01-06-2012 2:10 AM


CMI Guy
Here.
I'm sure we'd all enjoy slapping him around showing him the error of his ways.
Of course, you'd have to make him say something of substance first. Perhaps if he could post these fifteen questions of which he speaks ... I seem to remember answering them several years ago when I first read this piffle.

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Panda
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Message 426 of 517 (646683)
01-06-2012 5:23 AM
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01-06-2012 2:10 AM


Re: CMI Guy
Dr. A writes:
Of course, you'd have to make him say something of substance first.
I think you are probably asking too much...
http://www.christianforums.com/t7612272/
http://www.openbibleforum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=...
He can't debate; he can only preach.

If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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Butterflytyrant
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Message 427 of 517 (646689)
01-06-2012 6:40 AM


CMI
I am interested in what he has.
I am curious what his 15 questions are.
If for no other reason than to display to the lurkers that we can support our position.
If his topic gets squashed, we all know that they will advertise that the science side is so scared of what he has to say that we silenced him.
And we can expect Buz to add it to his conspiracy against anti-evolutionists.

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Message 428 of 517 (646692)
01-06-2012 8:01 AM
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01-06-2012 6:40 AM


Re: CMI
Hi BT,
I am curious what his 15 questions are.
They're here; http://creation.com/.../15-questions-for-evolutionists-s.pdf
They're stupid.
Mutate and Survive

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Message 429 of 517 (646693)
01-06-2012 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 428 by Granny Magda
01-06-2012 8:01 AM


Re: CMI
Hey GM,
I checked them out.
It is very disappointing that they are still using such blatant dishonesty to promote their faith.
Chuck has put them up.
It will not be too difficult to hammer them all down.
It will be good to have a link that I can supply to anyone that I think may have been violated by the stupidity that it the Creation Ministry 15 questions brochure.

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Pressie
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Message 430 of 517 (646695)
01-06-2012 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 428 by Granny Magda
01-06-2012 8:01 AM


Re: CMI
Hi everyone
I think that the young Jimmy Stephens who originated the thread is a bit off base as it's not new at all. The so-called initiative started in May or June last year. It might even have started years ago; you never know with them.
The biggest scam artist who ever had the privilege to walk the face of the earth, Don Batten, has pretended that he got a few "answers" from "atheists" and that he is "refuting" the "answers". Those "answers" to the 15 questions were obviously also dreamed up by the arch scam artist himself.
You can see the the first chapter of the "rebuttals" to the scam "answers" by arch scam artist Don Batten himself here.

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nwr
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Message 431 of 517 (646699)
01-06-2012 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 425 by Dr Adequate
01-06-2012 2:10 AM


Re: CMI Guy
To me, he looked pretty close to a spammer. The only thing missing was a url to his site.
His PNT does not actually propose a new topic. It's just an advertising blurb. I'm not seeing any interest in discussion in that post.

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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Butterflytyrant
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Message 432 of 517 (646705)
01-06-2012 9:33 AM


CMI
It looks like Chuck77 is interesting in discussing the 15 questions, see Message 1.
He is looking to get Buz involved, I assume for support.
If we can get Dawn Bertot and IamJoseph involved, we will have ouselves a hootenanny.
Jokes aside, if the other side actually believe that the questions are valid, they need to be told why they are incorrect.

I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong
Butterfly, AKA, mallethead - Dawn Bertot
"Superstitions and nonsense from the past should not prevent us from making progress. If we hold ourselves back, we admit that our fears are more powerful than our abilities." Hunters of Dune Herbert & Anderson
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Message 433 of 517 (646713)
01-06-2012 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 432 by Butterflytyrant
01-06-2012 9:33 AM


Re: CMI
And you actually think we're capable of telling that trio anything? I mean, you've been here 6 months now, I would have thought you'd have figured out by now that you can always tell a creo, but you can't tell them much.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Butterflytyrant
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Message 434 of 517 (646849)
01-06-2012 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 433 by subbie
01-06-2012 10:16 AM


Re: CMI
Hey Subbie,
And you actually think we're capable of telling that trio anything?
I picked the people least likley to make any sense.
And also least likley to see reason.
I need to work out a better way to display sarcasm in my posts.
OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message by continuing in this vein.
Ignoring this warning = 2 Hr Suspension!

AdminPD
Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

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Panda
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Message 435 of 517 (654384)
02-29-2012 7:52 PM


THE EVOLUTION DELUSION
alkimizta2012 writes:
5, 973, 600, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000 -- 180,000,000,000,000,000 = about 417,360,000
I think someone should simply point out that he can't even do simple subtraction.
(TBH: I think that his calculator couldn't handle that many digits.)
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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