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Message 17 of 105 (385592)
02-16-2007 11:47 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by sidelined
02-14-2007 6:39 PM

sidelined writes:

... after being submerged for at least 150 days no vegetation could be left upon the entire planet and therefore there would be no forests remaining.

There is a loophole:

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Gen 8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
Gen 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.

According to the "documentary evidence", at least one olive tree did survive.

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Message 79 of 105 (394234)
04-10-2007 12:16 PM

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04-09-2007 11:20 PM

Re: Re-Noah's Flood

ICANT writes:

Noah preached for 100 years while building the ark giving mankind time to repent.

I think you're just making that up. I don't see anywhere in the text where anybody was given a chance to repent after the flood was announced.

Any repenters would only have aggravated the food shortage.

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Message 81 of 105 (395261)
04-15-2007 8:23 PM

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04-15-2007 8:08 PM

Re: Re-Noah's Flood

CTD writes:

I don't see anywhere in the text where anybody was given a food shortage....

These people forget about manna, but we haven't.

Maybe you didn't read far enough:

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Gen 6:21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.

"All food that is eaten". Not just manna.

You might do well to read the thread, too. Just about all of your points have been dealt with.

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Message 83 of 105 (395292)
04-15-2007 10:27 PM

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04-15-2007 9:49 PM

Re: Re-Noah's Flood

CTD writes:

God has never had a problem providing food.

This being a science forum, God poofing up manna aplenty is not an answer.

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Message 85 of 105 (395542)
04-16-2007 9:59 PM

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04-16-2007 9:32 PM

Re: Re-Noah's Flood

This being a science forum, God poofing anything is not an answer.

How could the animals survive outside the ark when the flood had destroyed all plant life? Scientific answer, please - not Biblical.

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Message 87 of 105 (395562)
04-17-2007 12:08 AM

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04-16-2007 11:51 PM

Re: Re-Noah's Flood

ICANT writes:

You mean I can't tell you the dove brought back a olive leaf plucked off an olive tree.

You'd have to show that an olive tree can survive a year submerged in water. Come to think of it, that wouldn't be a difficult experiment to do, would it? I wonder why creationists haven't done it.

But there was no scientist there to say there was not enough vegetation to sustain the animal life.

But we have scientists today - creationists even claim they have some of their own. So why don't we see a real feasibility study? Why don't we see "creation scientists" experimenting to find which plants can survive a year-long flood, how quickly they can propagate after the flood, how many animals they could sustain?

Where's the data? How come all ya got is "woulda coulda shoulda"?

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Message 89 of 105 (395567)
04-17-2007 12:29 AM

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04-17-2007 12:15 AM

Re: Re-Noah's Flood

ICANT writes:

If God spoke it into existance one time at the beginning why could He not do it again?

Because this is a science thread and "God poofed it" is not an answer. Please remember that point instead of repeating the same non-answer over and over again.

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