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Parasomnium
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Message 2 of 17 (409565)
07-10-2007 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
07-10-2007 5:36 AM


Some suggestions
Moose writes:
Many intelligent design (ID) proponents do not state who the designer is. But the possibilities seem to come down to either God or extraterrestrial aliens. I must presume that Mr. Erickson is one of the former. The Raelians would be an example of the later.
To preclude any misunderstanding about what you want to say, my suggestion here would be:
"I must presume that Mr. Erickson is one of those who promote the former. The Raelians would be an example of proponents of the latter." (My additions in bold; thanks, Mike, for "latter".)
[Behe], in my opinion, is the one who has forwarded the most coherent biological argument for ID. But that argument is but one of “God of the gaps”. That is, there are allegedly details in evolution that evolutionary theory can not adequately explain, which requires the input of a designer. In other words, the designer has to some degree influenced the pathways of evolution.
Minor quibble about the sentence in bold: two buts is ugly. Better would be:
"But his argument is still one of "the God of the Gaps" (Some more embellishments also in bold.)
Mr. Erickson notes that “A Harris poll done in 2005 found that 64 percent of American adults (and about half of those who are college graduates) agree that ”human beings were created directly by God.’” Sorry, but scientific study of “the creation” strongly indicates that those people are wrong.
I'd leave out "Sorry, but". First, there's no need to apologize for the results of science, and second, I think it weakens the power of the argument.
You might also want to point out that the truth about the nature of existence is not a matter of majority opinion.
References/further reading:
Include something by Dawkins?
Edited by Parasomnium, : added paragraph about "Sorry, but"
Edited by Parasomnium, : "latter"

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Parasomnium
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Message 12 of 17 (409741)
07-11-2007 3:10 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Minnemooseus
07-10-2007 8:59 PM


Re: The letter I'm replying to
Moose,
In your draft you quote Erickson mentioning the Harris poll and respond with "Sorry, but scientific study of 'the creation' strongly indicates that those people are wrong."
But you didn't quote his following paragraph in which he says:
What if the majority of Americans believed Elvis was still alive and even 10 police detective testified that the evidence convinced them that this was the case? No, it would not mean Elvis was really alive, but it would require those who disagreed with this claim to respond, not with mockery, but with rational argument.
So in fact, he's not merely claiming that since a majority of American adults believe that human beings were created directly by God, it must therefore be true - as one might interpret it without the paragraph that follows it - but he's claiming that it should therefore be taken seriously and not ridiculed. That's quite a different argument, and he's got a point. You and I may not agree with it, but your rebuttal does not address Erickson's point.
You'd do well to change your letter and address Erickson's claim proper, instead of taking the, excusez-le-mot, shallow route.
Edited by Parasomnium, : No reason given.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?

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