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Author Topic:   Draft of anti-ID letter to the editor
anastasia
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Message 7 of 17 (409600)
07-10-2007 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by mike the wiz
07-10-2007 8:53 AM


Re: The latter letter later
mike the wiz writes:
If I were to reply to your letter, I'd say that a better conclusion for Theists, would be to infer that there is some sort of intelligence either within nature itself, or from an inexplicable source.
One of the problems with ID and creationism is that they are ideas which arise expressly from a belief in a transcendent entity. There are many possibilities conceivable by the imagination which would reconcile theism with evolution if we weren't bound by that theological conclusion.

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anastasia
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Message 10 of 17 (409658)
07-10-2007 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by mike the wiz
07-10-2007 1:22 PM


Re: The latter letter later
mike the wiz writes:
Yes - that's a problem, as one can never infer that God is the cause of a thing it seems, as God will always be invoked posteriori. Therefore nobody can ever predict that an intelligence is at work without people thinking that the person is claiming that God did it.
People have always claimed that an intelligence was at work. History shows that the intelligence has been given many, many forms and names.
'The Christian God' is just the latest name, and to exlude that from being the 'I' in ID, is to start all over again in the evolution of theology. If the inexplicable is simply called 'God' we must, again, decide if the atributes of that God are natural, alien, immanant, or transcendent. Basically, because the Christian God arose from the conclusion of ID, there can be no Christian God Who is NOT intelligent and Who does NOT design.
Anyway, I started a thread which I thought was similar, but probably isn't. I won't clog up this one any more.

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