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truthlover
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Message 221 of 304 (207449)
05-12-2005 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by AdminJar
05-12-2005 10:29 AM


Lying
I hope this is important enough to post. When Moose closed the O'Reilly evidence thread, he said his impression is that Rrhain was nitpicking. He wasn't nitpicking. He was wrong, but it's impossible to communicate with Rrhain, so I quit trying.
I'm addressing this to you, because it concerns why you don't let forumites call other forumites liars.
Here's how the conversation went across two threads:
Someone: O'Reilly said blacks are 37% of Florida universities.
TL (me): I looked up 37% on such and such web site (I gave reference), and that's correct for incoming minorities and has been for several years. Maybe O'Reilly meant minorities, not just blacks.
Rrhain: Here's the quote, you stupid, lying, moron (or something to that effect)! O'Reilly said blacks, not minorities!
TL drops subject...
new thread comes up...
TL: Al Franken's book said O'Reilly made up 37% figure. It's wrong for blacks, but it's not made up. I gave reference in other thread.
Rrhain: Current figures are 33% (his figures look professional, but no references are given).
TL: Irrelevant. I told you where 37% came from, and if it came from somewhere, it isn't just made up.
Rrhain then posts multiple posts calling me a liar.
I don't doubt that Rrhain really believes I'm lying and that I regularly lie. However, there is nothing like a basis for his ranting and raving when numerous people are trying to correct him.
The fact is, there is a reason that respect is in the rules of this forum and most others. In the heat of debate, your opponent always looks devious, unreasonable, and clearly has the heart of the devil himself. People incapable of questioning their own judgment will never be able to show respect or be pleasant to talk to.
Rrhain has stated he doesn't care if he's pleasant to talk to. Here's the problem.
In both threads where his focus has become to expose truthlover's evil, the thread ended. Not only did my participation end, but so did Crashfrog's, Schrafinator's, and everyone else's, except those trying to control Rrhain's public tantrum.
In other words, whether Rrhain's crusade against me was righteous or not, it didn't help EVCforum.
So, in conclusion, two points:
1.) People who call other people liars and are disrespectful in other ways, are almost never justified by the facts. It's simply a pattern with that person.
2.) Even if it were justified the results make EVCforum a less educational and less attractive web site.
There are good reasons that no-name-calling and respect-required rules exist.

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