apes or no apes

"Here is a more interesting question. How did moses divide the red sea? and not only that how could the land below be dry? The answer is simple."the answer is simple...it didn't really happen.
i dunno how people can beleive this stuff actually happened...when the snake in my garden tells me not to pick the apples...then i'll look into it...until then...it's as much a fairy tail as jack and the bean stalk. sorry to upset some of you...but santa isn't real eaither

jazzlover
There you go again getting defensive. Don't you get it ? The bible verse was very clear."And he[Moses] took the calf which they had made, and burnt [it] in the fire, and ground [it] to powder, and strawed [it] upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink [of it]."It states in black and white the calf was burnt in the fire.
No intervention of God through Moses. It was the blinking fire mate.
Then He ground it to a powder which probably cant be done so we are left with the puzzle.By the way where did you get the idea that God lives in another dimension?How do you know he is not subject to the laws of physics?
Where do we arrive at that conclusion? The point I was making about the ashes is that a fire could not reduce gold to such a state and could not even have melted it.As for this one. Real simple.He didn't.It was a myth.Hmm.comparing God to a lawyer. Ouch.

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'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
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um, what doe sthe AM:================= bar thing under topics stand for??
lol, god to a lawyer

That's the activity meter hun. Registers activity on each particular thread. The closer to red, the more posting going on in a short period of time on that thread.

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The Bible isn't about evidence - it's about belief. Don't make lame attempts to belittle it because of YOUR unbelief in it, when it states that it is ABOUT BELIEF.We all know where you are coming from NOW. What has the bible got to do with this?

Why dont you study a little egyptian history and maybe you will find the tale of the red sea from the pharohs side. this isnt only in the bible the egyptians also wrote about it. I dont have time to start looking for links on this so do the homework if youre interested. If youre gonna prove a story in the bile as false youll have to get ready to claim the entire book false and prove it. Since Jesus used the old testament a lot in his teachings you can do a lot by proving that Jesus never existed. I f you do that you have 99.9% of your task done. very interesting way of using logic to ridiculize my position but two can play this game buddy. My turn.The day I see an ape in its transitional form to become a human, or a pigeon in its transition to become a cow, then ill look into it...its as much fairy tail as the big bang....sorrry to upset some of you but macroevolution isnt real either

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The day I see an ape in its transitional form to become a human, or a pigeon in its transition to become a cow, then ill look into it...

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Who told you that apes become humans, or that pigeons become cows?

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"It isn't faith that makes good science, it's curiosity."
-Professor Barnhard, The Day the Earth Stood Still

No, you made an assertion that this is in Egyptian history. Please find the reference to the parting of the red sea and the destruction of the pharohs army. I presume that such a huge, amazing event would have some record. Why? What does one mistake have to do with anything else in any book? I doubt that there is a single text book, biography, history or what have you that doesn't have a small error or two in it. Why does that make all the rest wrong?Are you really prepared to say that if any detail of the bible is wrong then the whole thing is false? That seems to be a very odd position. Does it mean if you say one thing wrong or make one mistake I'm entitled to assume everything else you say is wrong?Obviously, if I find one person or book has first one then another and another error I might gradually come to lower my assessment of the accuracy of that person or book and eventually start off by assuming them wrong until it is shown otherwise. But I don't do that from just one error unless it is an egregious one.

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Common sense isn't

Oh come one Dan, Jazz was just being funny. He isn't that stupid or ignorant to think that that means anything. Not any more than Nexus thought that his remark about the snake in his garden has anything to do with a real argument.[This message has been edited by NosyNed, 02-02-2004]

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Common sense isn't

I know, I know, I've just heard that argument at least four times today, both on and off this forum. At a certain point you start getting snippy.

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"It isn't faith that makes good science, it's curiosity."
-Professor Barnhard, The Day the Earth Stood Still

honestly i cant find anything on the web that helps much on this issue from th egyptian side youll have to go to a library or take a course in egyptology(this is where i heard of it ). but here is an inetresting link that i foundThe. St. Petersburg Times - , 936

And the reason you can't find anything is just possibly because there isn't anything. But I'm not an expert. We have some here you know more.Interesting article, it simply turns your biblical miracle into a natural event that the supposed escaping Isrealites were lucky enough to have found. Is that what you wanted?

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Common sense isn't

Hi Jazz,Now just because something can happen, doesn't mean it did.I am fairly familiar with Egyptian and Ancient Near eastern archaeology and history and I cannot think of anything from the Egyptian side that supports an Exodus. I am afraid you are going to have to support this or retract it. A faint memory of some sort of evidence isn't really that convincing.Oh, and the Bible never mentions a crossing at the Red Sea, if I have to tell another fundy this very basic Sunday School error I am going to scream.Brian.

There are some people who claim to have found correlations betwen Egyptian records and the Bible, but the claimed correlations require such tortuous reworking of known dates that few find them believeable. The mainstream view is that none of the events of Exodus are recorded outside the Bible.From Egypt & the Wanderings:

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For all the momentousness of the events of the migration for the Hebrews and the dramatic nature of the rescue, including plagues and catastrophes raining down on Egypt, the Egyptians do not seem to have noticed the Hebrews or to even know that they were living in their country. While we have several Egyptian records of foreign groups during the New Kingdom, they are records of actively expelling groups they feel are threatening or overly powerful. The Hebrews never appear in these records, nor do any of the events recounted in the Hebrew history of the event.

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Or, from An Anthropologist Looks at the Judeo-Christian Scriptures:

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Egyptian records do not document the existence of biblical events such as the Exodus or wars of conquest by the Hebrews in Canaan. Such silence about events on as grand a scale as those reported in the Hebrew scriptures would be surprising if the biblical account is accurate. This has led most contemporary scholars to view the biblical version of events as retrospective glorification of the roots of the Monarchy, as legend rather than history.

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That assumes technologies like ours ... maybe there
are other ways to travel than simple thrust ...