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CelticShadow
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Message 1 of 42 (92479)
03-14-2004 7:27 PM


As I was reading the post below (Is mans theory of human evolution clouded from the truth?) I was wondering to myself who would go to such great lengths as to cause so much information to be released without putting the facts into the pot.

The fact is the Annunaki theory really isn't that hard to believe.

The Earth Chronicles that Annunaki listed in the previous post is just the tip of the ice burg of information Sitchin had to offer.

For all of those who does not know.. Sitchin is a linguist and anthropologist in command of many ancient languages, who has had more success in Sumerian text.

To date, Sitchin has deciphered more then 2,000 clay cylinders from the Persion Gulf that has existed some 6,000 years ago. Some of these fragments, which date to 4,000 B.C., are in museums around the world. But, one fragment in particular, presently in Germany, indicates that Earth is the seventh planet, counting in from Pluto. The time frame here is four millennia before modern astronomy confirmed the existence of Pluto as an actual planet in our Solar system. So how did an ancient race of people know this fact? Sitchin says it is because these ancient poeple did not come from Earth, but from Nibiru. Profound family squabbles eventually caused the Annunaki to abandon planet Earth, leaving human beings to fend for themslves. These early humans would never possess the ability to ravel amount the stars like their creators, nor would they possess the immortailty of their creators. Eons later, however, we humans finally have sent an intelligently designed satellite probe beyond the confines of our solar system. Are we repeating our past? This is but one of the perplexing questions Sitchin investiages in the Earth Chronicles. Not only an eminent archeologist, Sitchin is also foridable analyst of ancient cultures, in fact, perhaps the best ever.

Maybe this best explains the information.. plesae ask questions.. I have researched this topic for 2 years now.


CelticShadow
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Message 2 of 42 (92482)
03-14-2004 7:38 PM
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03-14-2004 7:27 PM


I assume this is the thread you are replying too

http://http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=9&t=55&p=12

"Is mans theory of human evolution clouded from the truth?"

To post a general reply to a specific thread, you would use the large, Post Reply button at the top right or bottom left of the entire page. To post a specific reply to a specific post, you would use the little red arrow reply button at the bottom of that particular post. I believe you used the Post New Topic button that is regretably right next to the general Post Reply button.


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Spencer
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Message 3 of 42 (92657)
03-16-2004 12:35 AM


This website was found from what Annunaki told people to do - go to a search engine and look up 'Nibiru' (http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html).When will we be able to see Nibiru? Why can't we now with out technology? Over at CNN Science and Space section it seems as though they have found a tenth planet - Sedna. What do you have to say about this and why wasn't it recorded in the Annunaki Theory?

From CNN about Sedna:

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The object -- about 8 billion miles (12.8 billion kilometers) from Earth -- has been given the provisional name of Sedna, after the Inuit goddess who created sea creatures of the Arctic.

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Sedna is likely the largest object to be found circling the sun since the discovery of Pluto in 1930. It is still smaller than the ninth planet, though, with a diameter of more than 1,000 miles (1,700 kilometers).

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Message 4 of 42 (92692)
03-16-2004 5:51 AM
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03-16-2004 12:35 AM


Moons and things
Another good question would be:

'Why is Luna counted as a planet when some other moons (eg Io, Ganymede and Calisto areound Jupiter or Titan around Neptune) are larger than Luna but not counted?'


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Message 5 of 42 (92753)
03-16-2004 12:02 PM
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03-16-2004 5:51 AM


Re: Moons and things
The definition of planet isn't very precise - a planet is one of those things that you know when you see it.

As a former planetary scientist (actually, only got the M.S. - bailed out before I started a dissertation), I call anything big enough to be round to be a planet.


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CelticShadow
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Message 6 of 42 (92844)
03-16-2004 10:43 PM
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03-16-2004 12:02 PM


Nibiru has many other names, in the Bible, for instance, they call the Planet Wormwood the place that Satan himself came from.

You guys have to realize that the Jewish people, the orginal scripters of the Bible, is a branch of the Sumerians.

Sumerian text dictates that one year on planet Nibiru, a sar, was equivalent in time to 3,600 Earth years. They also said Anunnaki lifespans were 120 sars which is 120 x 3600 or 432,000 years. According to the King List 120 sars had passed from the time the Anunnaki arrived on Earth to the time of the Flood. However when the Lofty Ones came to Earth their lifespans began to sync with Earth's faster orbit and they faced rapid aging compared to that on Nibiru. Einstein's theory of General Relativity says celestial body gravity and motion warps local space/time. They discovered that by eating food from their home planet they could keep the aging process synced to the pace of Nibiru.

Also, scientists thoerize that the Tenth planet has a elipical orbit, if this is becomes a fact it means that Planet X moves in and out of our Solar System which would be why we haven't discovered a specific path, and can only speculate. According to Sumerian text Nibiru was suppose to enter back into our Solar System last year around March. Now, one of two things can be happening. Nibiru has already entered our Solar System and we don't know about it, or translations from the Sumerian tablets have been misread and mistranslated. My guess that Sumerian text has been mistranslated, not by the lack of abilities to translate the material, but the fact that Sumerian time may be different from our own.

In the early 1990's, calculations by the United States Naval Observatory have confirmed the orbital perturbation exhibited by Uranus and Neptune, which Dr. Thomas C Van Flandern, an astronomer at the observatory, says could be explained by "a single undiscovered planet". He and a colleague, Dr. Robert Harrington, calculate that the 10th planet should be two to five times more massive than Earth and have a highly elliptical orbit that takes it some 5 billion miles beyond that of Pluto.

We know today that beyond the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn lie more major planets, Uranus and Neptune, and a small planet, Pluto. But such knowledge is quiet recent. Uranus was discovered, through the use of improved telescopes, in 1781. Neptune was pinpointed by astronomers (guided by mathematical calculations) in 1846. It became evident that Neptune was being subjected to unknown gravitational pull, and in 1930 Pluto (was located). The latest advances in space imaging do not rely solely on orbital perturbations as the way for locating and identifying possible candidates for Planet X.

The 6,000 year old Sumerian descriptions of our solar system include one more planet they called "Nibiru", which means "Planet of the crossing".The descriptions of this planet by the Sumerians match precisely the specifications of "Planet X" (the Tenth Planet), which is currently being sought by astronomers in the depths of our own Solar System. Why has Planet X not been seen in recent times? Views from modern and ancient astronomy, which both suggest a highly elliptical, comet-like orbit, takes Planet X into the depths of space, well beyond the orbit of Pluto. We discovered Pluto with our telescopes just recently in 1930.

Is it not possible that there are other forces at work on our solar system besides the nine planets we know of? YES!!!! The Sumerian descriptions of Our Solar System are being confirmed with modern advances in science.


CelticShadow
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Spencer
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Message 7 of 42 (92860)
03-17-2004 12:29 AM


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We discovered Pluto with our telescopes just recently in 1930.

1930's is not just recently. We can see well beyond our solar system - galaxy even. Why can't we spot an immense planet 2-5 times the size of Earth? The newest planet, Sedna, never reaches above -400 degrees farenheit, hardly suitable for life. Tell me how Nibiru, with an eliptical orbit that extends farther than Pluto and Sedna even, can be hostpital for life? Intelligent life for that matter.


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CelticShadow
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Message 8 of 42 (93061)
03-18-2004 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Spencer
03-17-2004 12:29 AM


Actually the 1930s in a scientific stand point is recently.

Also, If Nibiru has such a ellipical orbit then we theorize that something else besides our Sun is pulling the planet into such a shape. Maybe... just maybe when Nibiru gets past Pluto and Sedna, and if it does go into a different Solar System, then maybe it goes around another sun, similiar to our own.

My point is that we don't know... we can only speculate from ancient text. Our technology isn't as good as you think it is, we can only see so far with any telescope and beyound Sedna we haven't a clue what is out there. You have to remember that groups of stars are different Constellations, who knows whats exactly in those Constellations... heck there might be another Solar System with a similar planet like ours called Oceania where all the people have fins and swim instead of walk.

Also, according to Sumerian description of the Annunaki they where supposely Reptile based. Some even described the Annunaki as Dragons (The Annunaki Theory just isn't in the Sumerian culture, but from the Babylonian, Egyptian, and Persian culture) We know from a scientific stand point that when it gets called Reptiles hibernate. Maybe that is what happens?

Nobody really knows, and intil then we can only make speculations even if they seem untrue. Mars at one point supposely had life, and running water.. what happen there?


CelticShadow
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CelticShadow
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Message 9 of 42 (93062)
03-18-2004 1:07 AM
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03-17-2004 12:29 AM


{Duplicate of previous message - Adminnemooseus}

[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 03-18-2004]


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Gary
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Message 10 of 42 (93203)
03-18-2004 5:52 PM
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03-18-2004 1:06 AM


Is there any physical evidence whatsoever of any of this save for what the Sumerians wrote? Did Sitchin take any pictures of the tablets? Did he use any reliable method to put a date on them? Has anyone else aside from Sitchin checked these findings or translated them on their own? I just don't understand this at all. Even if these tablets exist, just because someone wrote something a long time ago that doesn't make it true.

quote:
Also, If Nibiru has such a ellipical orbit then we theorize that something else besides our Sun is pulling the planet into such a shape. Maybe... just maybe when Nibiru gets past Pluto and Sedna, and if it does go into a different Solar System, then maybe it goes around another sun, similiar to our own.

If Nibiru is real, since it is a large planet it might cause other outer planets to wobble in a measureable fashion. This could allow astronomers to calculate its position. Why has no one found it?

Just because something has an elliptical orbit doesn't mean something besides the sun is pulling on it. Why would comets and asteroids follow elliptical orbits if that were the case? And if there was another sun for it to orbit around, we would be able to see it as it would be the closest star to Earth. Presently, the closest star to Earth is Proxima Centauri, at a distance of 4.2 light years - so far away, that if a planet were to try to orbit around it and our own sun, it would be thrown off course by one or the other stars and be lost to both. They would make a difficult target to orbit around, since stars move.

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... we can only speculate from ancient text. Our technology isn't as good as you think it is, we can only see so far with any telescope and beyound Sedna we haven't a clue what is out there.

Our technology is good enough that we don't need to speculate from ancient texts of questionable origin. And there exist theories about the existence of the Kuipier Belt and Oort Cloud (Pluto, Charon, Quaoar, and Sedna are probably just large objects in these areas), so we have a general idea of what is out there. Yes, there could be life on other worlds beyond our own, but I strongly doubt that life can exist anywhere that cold and far from the sun.

My problem with this "theory" is that it has no evidence to back it up. There would be artifacts, fossils, SOMETHING left for us to find. I haven't seen anything besides a few websites and timelines. Besides, the story is almost totally unbelievable. Sure, its interesting and would make a great graphic novel, but thats not sound science. It doesn't explain all the evidence for human evolution without the influence of some alien race living on a planet too far from the sun to sustain life.


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Spencer
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Message 11 of 42 (93209)
03-18-2004 6:03 PM


Everything you want to know is here.

I have searched through this website just briefly to look at some of the pictures and evidence they present, i even watched a video, but the technology and information they use is so out-dated that it can hardly be even called 'evidence'.

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Message 12 of 42 (93218)
03-18-2004 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by CelticShadow
03-18-2004 1:06 AM


From a scientific standpoint, the 1930s are ages ago. Hell, from a scientific standpoint, 2001 is a while back.
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Gary
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Message 13 of 42 (93405)
03-19-2004 6:23 PM
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03-18-2004 6:03 PM


I haven't seen that website up until now. Just looking at the front page, they talk about the face on Mars. I think if there was anything that looked as interesting as a possible huge monolith on Mars, NASA would have landed something there. Instead, they took new pictures of it and it turned out to just be mountains.

Looking at the slides from one of his lectures, he edits a newer picture of the face on Mars to make it look like more like a face!

Here is a picture I like from one of that guy's lectures. It is a bit hard to read so I have typed out what it says:
"Troubled Times believes that a world-wide cataclysm, will strike the Earth in the year 2003. The cause of this natural event will be a planet, known to the ancients, which will pass very near the earth as part of its normal 3,600 year orbit around the sun.
...affecting all life on earth. These events have occurred before, as ancient legends and Prophecies fortell, creating what man Interprets to be ice ages, wandering poles and the flood, and have resulted in the extinction of the Mastodon and the sinking of Atlantis."

I must have missed that one last year. Do people seriously believe in all this?


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Message 14 of 42 (93429)
03-19-2004 7:57 PM
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03-19-2004 6:23 PM


although I don't believe it I find it more Believable then christanity and MANY other religions... I mean they even have "evidence" where as Christanity doesn't
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Spencer
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Message 15 of 42 (93612)
03-20-2004 10:18 PM


Well actually only some people believe that a world-wide cataclysm would happen in 2003 (if you believe in the Nibiru planet/religion/whatever) and others who believe in that religion said nothing was going to happen.

I am just curious what will happen in 2012, as both sides seem to keep saying that something will happen then.


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