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anglagard
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Message 34 of 134 (489974)
12-01-2008 3:53 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by extremophile
12-01-2008 1:28 AM


Huh?
extremeophile writes:
There are also some recent cranial changes that are not result of genetic evolution per se, but from "evolution" on the foods we eat. Cooked food is easier to chew, this results in smaller jaws and muscles. It was also replicated with experiments with animals.
This sounds like the Lamarckian, or even worse, Lysenkoian rather than the Darwinian ToE. Please feel free to elaborate.
{ABE} the links are dead from here, and that is very rare from my setup if they are viable.
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anglagard
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Message 36 of 134 (490196)
12-03-2008 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by extremophile
12-02-2008 10:22 AM


Re: Huh?
OK, I see now that your arguments are reasonable and backed by empirical evidence, provided they are not taken to the extreme.
You do indeed bring up some interesting points.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
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Message 51 of 134 (492183)
12-29-2008 5:17 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Peg
12-29-2008 5:04 AM


Re: Complex Issues Don't Need Simplistic Answers
Peg writes:
populations tend to do that... if you have 10 couples, they will likely produce 10 children in a year
if you have 500 couples, they will likely produce 500
it doesnt take much to work out that the longer a population reproduces, the greater the reproduction rate.
in 40,000 years, you'd certainly expect a larger population then 300,000. Besides this, most people recognize that aboriginals came from asia.
That must have been back in 'magic' times when there were no miscarriages, infertility, homosexuals, diseases, plagues, starvation, wars, etc.
Back when medicine and agriculture were more advanced than in our simple-minded times.
Strange how the total population of the world actually decreased around 530 AD and again around 1348 AD. Wonder why?
{ABE} I would be willing to venture the world population also decreased around 1500 AD as well but the decrease didn't last as long.
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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
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anglagard
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Message 85 of 134 (492513)
01-01-2009 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Granny Magda
01-01-2009 2:20 AM


Re: Complex Issues Don't Need Simplistic Answers
Good response there Granny.
I would just add the likely Jared Diamond take on the whole situation.
First what potential crops are indigenous to Australia that would have become wheat, corn, potatoes, barley, rice, cotton, and so on?
Second what animals indigenous to Australia could have been tamed and used as sources of meat, milk, transportation, clothing, or labor?
If a civilization has little or no necessary resources to start with, it has little chance of transitioning from a hunter gatherer to an agricultural society on its own.
Edited by anglagard, : add cotton and clothing

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The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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