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Marcosll
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Message 27 of 134 (462124)
03-31-2008 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Granny Magda
02-22-2008 11:37 PM


Re: Still no Evidence
I see a lot of people associating Christianity with Creationism.
While I understand that 33% of the world's population are Christian and therefore the vast majority of creationists are Christian I don't think it's fair to link Christ with the popular Christian view of creation.
Christ doesn't go into much talk about origins and focuses more on the spiritual and moral, and those things he said to this day hold value like equality between men and women.
I think it's reasonable to think that "debunking" the ark story just detracts from the main issue at hand.
There is something a bit off topic that's interesting about the ark story, and that's the age of people.
Remember, Noah lived 950 years. If you take the Ark story seriously you must take all the data seriously too. Noah had no offsping until he was 502. If you assume some of the data to be correct to try to debunk, then you must also factor in that time worked diferently somehow. How do current years relate to old years? How does that affect dating genetic bottlenecks?
Has anyone figured out why turtles used to live hundres of years until not too long ago? Why don't they live that long now? What does a 1000 year old turtle look like?
What does a 950 year old human look like?
We are missing a lot of information still to try to imagine these things in my opinion.
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Marcosll
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From: Estepona, Spain
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Message 30 of 134 (462178)
04-01-2008 5:05 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Adminnemooseus
03-31-2008 7:06 PM


Re: Really getting off-topic
Ok, let me try to explain why my message was on topic (more on topic than many of the replies in this thread by the way).
One of the questions the original poster poses is how can you account for cranial differences.
Skin, size, etc are also issues.
Another important thing to consider (which is 100% on topic) is that if you are trying to debunk parts of the old testament you must take into consideration the whole text not just bits that are convenient (such as people's ages that I mentioned).
Further, my question (which pertains to the original question) is, what does the skull of a 950 year old person looks like?
As for the age of turtles, 250 year old turtle
There are also other reports of turtles found the size of cars. Large turtle
So as a perfect example, we know things used to live longer (reptiles) up until very recently.
So you assume rates stay the same forever but there IS evidence that things used to live longer (turtle evidence 250 + years, recorded evidence humans 950 years). Up until recently.
When a 900 year old human has a child how do you know for certain this child hasn't evolved more than the child of someone who is 20 for example?
I think this is on topic and very relative to the question, especially compared with some of the other replies.
Please explain why you flag mine? Perhaps the questions I bring up are troublesom and the answers may be frightening? The link at the end of my post doesn't bother anyone. Perhaps my questions do.

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