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Author Topic:   how did our language derive from nothing?
crashfrog
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Message 3 of 83 (232536)
08-12-2005 8:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by shankypanky247
08-11-2005 4:02 AM


I'm just having a hard time grasping the idea that our complex written language of today derived from grunts or no sounds at all.
Well, it didn't. Our complex written language evolved from stylized pictures (pictograms). Our complex spoken language developed as a result of the vastly versatle vocal apparatus and the large portions of our brains given over to social interaction.
But why do we have language at all? I would presume that the survival benefit of language is obvious to you, right?
At any rate, your thread makes a great arena to look at the often-scary parallels between evolution of language and evolution of species. They're almost exactly alike.

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crashfrog
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Message 10 of 83 (233144)
08-14-2005 10:44 AM
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08-14-2005 3:45 AM


Re: re
how do you know that the large portion of the brain devoted to social interactments didnt develope in later years?
Because we share social interactions, but largely not language, with our closest evolutionary relatives, apes such as chimpanzees, gorillas, and gibbons.

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crashfrog
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Message 26 of 83 (266651)
12-07-2005 11:45 PM
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12-07-2005 11:39 PM


And, yet, creationists like yourself rely on medical science that wouldn't be possible if evolution weren't fundamentally accurate. Contradictions, indeed!

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crashfrog
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Message 29 of 83 (266660)
12-07-2005 11:55 PM
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12-07-2005 11:53 PM


And what does evolution have to do medicine?
Why don't you ask a doctor?
Do you really think that man would not be able to think if it weren't for apes who can't think?
It's because we can think that we recognize the fundamental accuracy of evolution; it's because we can model evolution that we can develop countermeasures to populations of pathogens.

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