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Author Topic:   What makes homo sapiens "human"?
Robert Byers
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Message 113 of 125 (147593)
10-05-2004 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by pink sasquatch
06-27-2004 7:12 PM


The differences between us and apes or any animals is the most striking difference in the world.
The essence of man clearly is our soul,spirit, and mind.
Just one angle here.
Unlike animals people are motivated by love, hate,pity,envy,pride, genoristy,awareness of right and wrong and rebelling against what one believes. On and on.
While animals have none ot these motives.
They have defined lines of food search, mating, and thats it.
What animal ever acted out of pride. yes they must protect their position but only for survival. Horses will prance tom please and dogs want to play but no animal ever has hated. Or loved.
All the difference in the world.
Rob

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Robert Byers
Member (Idle past 4396 days)
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Message 115 of 125 (148430)
10-08-2004 3:43 PM
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10-06-2004 4:53 PM


It was asked for differences between people and creatures.
Its a cop out to say we are just more intelligent. Well thats the difference. And the difference is not in the mind but the thoughts of our hearts.A deeper thinking.
I know animals like dogs show what we call human emotions however pride and right and wrong are not thier thing. Their thinking they have done something wrong comes from our commandments and not thier own world view. A dog would act shamed if you told it not to scratch and it did. They are not just dumber they have no foundation of free will and morality. And I would say they have no pride which drives mankind. They live only to survive and would never commit suicide.
Our surviving is a small part of our motives.
Rob

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Robert Byers
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Posts: 640
From: Toronto,canada
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Message 121 of 125 (149707)
10-13-2004 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Dan Carroll
10-08-2004 3:52 PM


I've had a cat once also. My idea is that they have no moral free will. they do not know good or evil. Your cat responds only to your enforcement and not to a moral system. It has no system and only acts to satisfy its appitites.
Rob

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Robert Byers
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Message 123 of 125 (149965)
10-14-2004 4:33 PM
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10-13-2004 3:59 PM


This is not because of moral principal. She also would not eat a smaller sleeping dog. Yet if she was hungry in both cases it would be done without reservation. The male cat on a farm will kill the kittens to bring the female xcat into heat. No love or hate is in its motive toward the kittens.
Rob

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