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ringo
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Message 181 of 182 (832178)
04-30-2018 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Phat
04-30-2018 12:24 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Phat writes:

Who the heck is gonna bail me out when I fail???


Faith believes we already fell. God set our ancestors up to fall and he blames every subsequent generation for what He did.

Paht writes:

I believe that we need God.


For what?

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Message 182 of 182 (832183)
04-30-2018 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Phat
04-30-2018 12:24 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Phat writes:

I believe that we need God.

Then your belief is obviously incorrect; millions of atheists don't need a god.

Who the heck is gonna bail me out when I fail???

You are, helped by friends, family and societal institutions.

Your pretend god is doing an absolute shit job if that's what you're relying on now.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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