Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,485 Year: 3,742/9,624 Month: 613/974 Week: 226/276 Day: 2/64 Hour: 1/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Cdesign proponentist troll recruiting center
RAZD
Member (Idle past 1427 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


Message 17 of 107 (519046)
08-10-2009 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by subbie
08-10-2009 8:38 PM


Re: Dembski in a snit: Let's challenge his students (to see if they think)
Hi subbie,
Perhaps we should issue a challenge: “Intelligent Design Supporters Strictly Welcomed -- all you have to do is support your claims with facts and answer all rebuttals.”
Perhaps we should start a new thread just for them.
Oh, also, apparently I'm projecting in calling them trolls. I acknowledge, as some have pointed out, that troll probably isn't technically accurate. So sue me.
There are various definitions of troll in internet usage
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/troll.html
quote:
(v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
(2) To surf the Internet.
(3) To hang around a chat room reading the posts instead of contributing to the chat.
(n.) One who performs any of the above actions.
Most people think of just a subset of the first, kids (usually) who try to annoy you to the point of losing it - not just bait a response but one that is angry and profane.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


• • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •

This message is a reply to:
 Message 16 by subbie, posted 08-10-2009 8:38 PM subbie has seen this message but not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 50 by Dawn Bertot, posted 11-01-2010 8:05 PM RAZD has not replied

  
RAZD
Member (Idle past 1427 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


Message 20 of 107 (519083)
08-11-2009 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Blue Jay
08-10-2009 10:35 PM


reality testing
Hi Bluejay,
Sound pedagogy!!?
It's sound pedagogy to require students to defend a specific theory?
My reading of it is that the arguments they use are supposed to be their own, and the question is whether they can stand up to scrutiny and survive testing against the evidence of reality.
subbie in Message 16
quote:
I might agree if he required his students to actually engage in a debate, rather than simply hitting and running. I suppose it's possible that he makes it clear in class that engagement is required, but it's certainly not made clear in the on-line syllabus.
I agree with subbie - if the purpose is for them to make an argument and then test it in the real world, that this would be a valid teaching tool. The test of this, though, is whether the students will be willing to admit when they are wrong.
Enjoy.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


• • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •

This message is a reply to:
 Message 18 by Blue Jay, posted 08-10-2009 10:35 PM Blue Jay has not replied

  
RAZD
Member (Idle past 1427 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


Message 21 of 107 (519087)
08-11-2009 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by subbie
08-09-2009 2:57 PM


So iff ID is not a religious teaching ...
Hi again subbie, don't you find it curious that most of the grade for an ID (ID is not religion...?) course is based on religion?
Why is 40% of the undergraduate grade based on
quote:
(2) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 40% of your grade);
The same question is asked for the "master's" program (30% of grade), plus
quote:
(2) write a 1,500- to 2,000-word critical review of Francis Collins’s The Language of God -- for instructions, see below (20% of your grade);
And the same two questions are again required for the "D.Min. course" adding
quote:
(4) develop a Sunday-school lesson plan based on the book Understanding Intelligent Design (worth 20% of your grade).
With not one (1) question about science?
I can't wait to see the "final" exam for these courses.
Enjoy

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


• • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by subbie, posted 08-09-2009 2:57 PM subbie has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 22 by subbie, posted 08-11-2009 3:12 PM RAZD has seen this message but not replied
 Message 26 by jar, posted 10-28-2010 10:23 PM RAZD has not replied
 Message 27 by Dr Adequate, posted 10-31-2010 12:37 AM RAZD has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024