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frako
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Message 42 of 107 (589240)
11-01-2010 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Dawn Bertot
11-01-2010 2:40 AM


Re: Final exam questions
Dawn Bertot
thats why he predicted they would find evidence if they would not there would be no evolution, what does ID predict ? How can it be falsified? What assumptions are yet to be proven and can they be left out ?

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frako
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Message 56 of 107 (589429)
11-02-2010 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Dawn Bertot
11-01-2010 7:39 PM


Re: Final exam questions
I noticed you didnt deny that he started with a conclusion, something you fellas proclaim is bass ackwards. So if your DADDY started with a conclusion are we justified in doing the same?
well no our "daddy", went arround the world and collected samples of animals and some fossils too. When he started to examine the stuff he braught home he found that some of the fossil bones of extinct species where related to living species in america, and his notes abbout birds that where simmilar and yet diferent depending on where they where he speculated that one species changes in to a nother. And after a lot more work he proposed natural selection evolution and so one...
he did not say out of the blue evolution made us he actualy did some work contraery to the IDists and creationists.
ID can be falsified, simply by demonstrating that order and law do not eixst, including purpose
It is a big jump form order to desighn so what you are saying that order hasto come from a divine one and that is the reason that my coin falls on heads 50% of the time and on tails 50% of the time.
and a2+b2=c2 tells you that god is responsible
purpose??? ok what is our purpose, where did you find out abbout our purpose
and what about chaos is that something your god did not yet put to order ???
ID predicts that law and order is recognizable and continues in great detail, in minute detail, in specific detail
It also predicts this behavior will continue, if taken outside of the womb and placed in a test tube, for example
It predicts that this process will continue even if it is proclaimed to not be design.
and this proves desighn how?? why do you need a god to make it so you are saying that it is impossible for nature do do it on its own whitout a fingersnap from god??
One would need to forumulate an assumption that these things do not exist for the assumption to have any meaning
I wanted to address your question before getting back to the topic in my other responses
i was thinking more abbout the asumption of there being a god would all the stuff you say that prove him still be the same if one left out a divine creator. Well we do not know and trying to prove something whit something you do not know is kinda tough. So on the one hand you have natural laws spawning from nature and you can see that every day, and on the other you have a creator whom you never see. Both explenations explain the current status one asumes there is no invisible undetectible shugar daddy and one assumes there is one. Im going whit the one that says there is no shuggar daddy cause he failed to show up well ever. If he does show up or if he does one of those behind the scens miracles one that science cannot explain well then i might give him a nother thought.

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frako
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Message 69 of 107 (589463)
11-02-2010 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Dawn Bertot
11-02-2010 5:07 PM


Re: What, judges cant be idiots like yourselves?
Ok let me retrace your steps
Hypothesis:
the grate spagettie monster created the universe and desighned it
Well science says cosmic strings colided and made the big bang go bang and these cosmic strings are the noodles of the grate spagetie monster what else could they be.
Further proof of the spagetie monster can be found in the order you can observe in nature where else could it come from?
And if you can listen to the spagetie monster you can se all the laws he made for us and all the other creatures. Look at nature you either eat or be eaten and if you follow his laws he rewards you look at all the ceos and buissnes owners they dont care abbout the poor they only care abbout themselves like the creatures in nature do and the grate Noodels rewards them for it they get lots of money women .... further proof of his exsistance
You want more proof look at all the true doo gooders they are all poor and misorable, Noodles is punishing them for not obeying his laws that he bestowed on all creatures.
You still do not belive in Noodels
oservation: cosmic strings made the universe, and there is order
hypothesis: there is a desighner that has cosmic strings ergo Noodels
predictions: If ou follow his laws that one can see in nature you are better off
Testing: look at who makes the moste money = those who dont give a rats ass abbout others
Conclusion: Noodels is real and if you do not follow his laws you will be worse off.
NOW DENOUNCE YOUR FALSE GODS AND IDOLS AND WHORSHIPE NOODELS

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frako
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Message 87 of 107 (589529)
11-03-2010 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Larni
11-03-2010 4:47 AM


Re: Final exam questions
Who designed the designer?
Self created.
Yay! 100%
hehe i realy dont get the idst and the creationist
there is order and things are so complex that there hasto be a desighner
well who then made this infinatly more complex desighner?
oh um he made him self or he is eternal ....
so why could evrything be eternal and we skip the desighner?
cant you see everything is desighned by him the one who does not need desighning.
go figure

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frako
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Message 98 of 107 (589846)
11-04-2010 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Dawn Bertot
11-04-2010 11:24 AM


Re: Final exam questions
Good question and an easy one to answer. Every position dealing with physical reallities needs to poist its initiation source, or atleast attempt to find its source if one is to be completely logical and scientific.
ok then tell me logicly and scientificly where did the desighner come from??

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