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In Message 126, Creation Guy wrote:
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Christian - loosely means someone who follows the teachings of Christ. To another degree it would mean one who believes Christ was more than just a man - the Son of God. Now as the Son of God what he says is gospel, at least for we Christians.
That being said.
Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."
Christ is recorded making statements about creation - The creation. Either Christ is mistaken which would negate his deity. Or he is correct.
As a Christian I would hope you would side with Christ. You can side with the teachings of man if you wish. Free will is yours.
What I cannot fathom is how you can say you are a Christian, but do not believe the words of Christ. You are trusting the suppositions and a belief they hold over acts they never saw (evolution)- over Christ?
I know of the theistic evolution and the two could not be more at odds. In one time is the miracle worker, in the other God is the miracle worker.
I'll end this post before I wander off too far - but being a Christian and being also a believer in evolutionism is at odds with one another at every level. At worst you are not a Christian (since you do not believe that He is God) see John 8:24), at best you are a confused Christian.
It is rough being a biblical fundamentalist.
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
This would lend credence to Genesis as well.
That being said.
Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."
Christ is recorded making statements about creation - The creation. Either Christ is mistaken which would negate his deity. Or he is correct.
Let's look at it in context:
KJV Bible, Mark 10 writes:
2And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.
3And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?
4And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
5And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
The Pharisees at that time thought the Moses wrote Genesis and were familiar with the story, of course. Jesus is simply using something that they are familiar with to answer their question. This does not mean that Jesus must be making statements about his own opinion on the matter.
Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Same thing here, Jesus doesn't have to be saying that the flood actually ocurred in real life if he is just referencing a story, that he knows is fictional, but that the audience was familiar with and probably believed.
For an anology, consider that Jesus is talking with a modern nerd, instead of a Pharisee, and says:
"Just as the United Federation of Planets gave you the Prime Directive, you to shall not blah blah blah."
In the same way, this would not mean that Jesus is saying that the United Federation of Planets actually exists. He is just referring to something familiar.
You get my point?
As a Christian I would hope you would side with Christ. You can side with the teachings of man if you wish. Free will is yours.
What I'm getting at is that you have a false dichotomy here because Jesus doesn't have to be incorrect if he wasn't endorsing the statement as factual. Or at least, its a way to rationalize the two.
And I'm not trying to convince you that this must be right. I'm trying to explain how one can be a true christian and still accept evolution.
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