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Author Topic:   Codes, Evolution, and Intelligent Design
kuresu
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Message 57 of 220 (322455)
06-16-2006 11:51 PM


just making a general reply to tc.
You claim DNA is a code. You claim water is not a code. However, DNA is nothing more than a huge chain of molecules, made up of four nitrogenous bases, a phosphate, and a ribose (or deoxyribose, more specifically). The process of self-replication is nothing more than a huge chemical reaction, involving plenty of proteins.
Water too is a chemical. So are phoshpo-lipids. So are amino acids, so are nucleic acids. These are all made using chemical reactions, following the chemical laws that we know of. So since DNA is a code (according to you), then so is water and all other chemicals and molecules, because they all are made with chemical reactions. But you argue that water isn't a code. Seems a little odd to me that you would pick and choose what chemicals and what molecules are code and which aren't.
As several have pointed out, the process of self-replication is a chemical reaction, and DNA itself is nothing more that a chain of molecules. Which isn't code--since when do molecules have "intent"?

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kuresu
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Message 122 of 220 (324845)
06-22-2006 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by tdcanam
06-22-2006 8:28 AM


Re: Percy
What programed the alien?
I'll ask you the same question--who programmed the first programmer, ie God?
You state it doesn't matter if the aliens programmed DNA. Well, then it doesn't matter if God programmed DNA. Because, as you ask, who programmed, created, or whatever the first entities?
You dismiss the alien argument on this ground. Looks like you also need to dismiss God on the same ground. Oops.

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