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Author Topic:   Is the creation/evolution debate taboo in our churches?
SammyJean
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Message 8 of 51 (528793)
10-07-2009 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Arphy
10-05-2009 2:46 AM


Hi Arphy,
Having been raise in a Jehovah's Witness family (I'm now an atheist) I don't believe that all churches avoid the debate.
The Watch Tower Society has several publications on the subject, including "Life How Did It Get Here?" Which Dawkin's comments on at length in his book "the God Delusion."
I was still involved with the JW's at the time of this books publication, when it was first introduced in 1985. I do remember, the book was reviewed and studied during meetings at the Kingdom Halls and Assembly Hall.
Having this experience though, I must say that the subject 'evolution vs. creation' is probably one of the most heated points that drove me away from the JW's and ultimately all religion. So most churches do well to stay way from the subject, I think. There's probably no better way to drive away some followers then to make them choose between being rational or believing.

"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts." -Albert Einstein
"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief."
~ Gerry Spence

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SammyJean
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Message 11 of 51 (528876)
10-07-2009 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Minnemooseus
10-07-2009 12:38 AM


Re: Nice little message, but...
Hi Moose,
No, It's the same book. It was revised in 2006.
From the way Dawkin's describes it in his book not much has changed in the revised edition.
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AbE: I see, you thought I was referring to Dawkin's book as published in 1985. Sorry, makes sense now
Edited by SammyJean, : Confirming page differences.

"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts." -Albert Einstein
"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief."
~ Gerry Spence

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SammyJean
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Message 22 of 51 (529303)
10-08-2009 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Peg
10-08-2009 9:24 AM


Sister Peg?
Hi Peg,
No JW believes in darwinian evolution...i doubt you could find even 1 fence sitter on this issue.
Are you a Jehovah's Witness?

"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts." -Albert Einstein
"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief."
~ Gerry Spence

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SammyJean
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From: Fremont, CA, USA
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Message 24 of 51 (529328)
10-08-2009 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Peg
10-08-2009 8:58 PM


Re: Sister Peg?
Hi Peg,
I've been a member here for 6 months or so but I have been mostly lurking here. I have been watching your posts in other threads and had been left with the impression that you are were a JW.
Wow! Confirmation, I just knew it!
Was it really the evolution debate that made you leave?
It's a really long story how I fell away from the 'truth' but in short it's not the evolution vs. creation debate that did it completely, although it is was what kept me from coming back.
I was a rebellious teen that ran away from home at the age of 16. The reasons: Some had to do with the religious restrictions that were in place, some had to do with other family issues. Spiritually, I kind of floated around for awhile. Looking for the religion that worked for me.
Eventually, I ended up landing in a the field of biology at the age of 19, an outsider really at this point, seeing as I was a high school drop-out (at the time). Being bright and curious I was rewarded for my interest and given a chance to learn more. From the bottom I work my way up. The biotechs paying and paved the way to my education.
Knowing biology all to well, I can't go back to believing in scripture.
I do have this to say regarding Christianity; I do believe that the JW's have the best interpretation of the bible, compared to the other Christians.

"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts." -Albert Einstein
"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief."
~ Gerry Spence

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