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Author Topic:   The Flood, fossils, & the geologic evidence
Capt Stormfield
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Message 29 of 377 (528931)
10-07-2009 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Calypsis4
10-07-2009 11:13 AM


It is my understanding that only a vanishingly small percentage of organisms die in circumstances that permit fossilization. Despite this, millions (?? - any exact estimate seems hard to find) of fossils have been recovered, and these represent only a literal scratching at the surface of the earth's fossil beds. Since many of these fossils represent single examples of entire species, the number of organisms that have lived on the earth since the beginning of life seems staggering.
Does your model done include any calculation of the total number of organisms that would have had to coexist more or less contemporaneously in the pre-flood era?
Capt.

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 58 of 377 (528976)
10-07-2009 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Calypsis4
10-07-2009 5:14 PM


Re: Address the evidence please
I believe that most fossils in the world are directly because of the flood. There are many exceptions and clearly much of it is guesswork. The mere preponderance of the number of fossils bespeaks of a volume that evolution cannot account for.
This relates to my as yet unanswered inquiry in message #29. Does your model have an estimate for the number of organisms that would have been alive at the same time in the pre-flood era?
It seems to me that this might pose a problem for your model. I do not see that evolutionary theory has any trouble at all accounting for such numbers, since it does not suggest that they were contemporaneous.
Capt.

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 75 of 377 (529016)
10-07-2009 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Calypsis4
10-07-2009 6:28 PM


I need a rest.
For definitions of "rest" that include the frantic searching of creationist sites for new diversions, no doubt.
While you're "resting", perhaps you could daydream about my question in post #29, which is still unanswered. Also, since you have had so much time to consider the unspeakably large numbers of animals that must have crowded Noah's prefecture, could you also address the amount of plant matter that must have been growing at the same time in order to account for the observed volume of fossilized plants?
Since explaining the predictions of your hypothesis is integral to the scientific process, and since your hypothesis predicts that all fossilized life existed in a time span shorter than the life of a single really good tree, I just know you must have some numbers on this.
Capt.
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Capt Stormfield
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Message 80 of 377 (529024)
10-07-2009 10:17 PM
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10-07-2009 10:08 PM


You're irony deficient, I take it?
Capt.

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 81 of 377 (529025)
10-07-2009 10:21 PM
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10-07-2009 10:12 PM


Re: Address the evidence please
It's like asking 'how many molecules make up the earths composition?'
What ever gave you the idea that that is difficult to estimate?
Capt.

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 84 of 377 (529029)
10-07-2009 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Calypsis4
10-07-2009 10:12 PM


Re: Address the evidence please
This relates to my as yet unanswered inquiry in message #29. Does your model have an estimate for the number of organisms that would have been alive at the same time in the pre-flood era?
No.
Well don't you think you ought to address the issue? If the number of fossils you claim were caused by a global flood implies an impossibly large number of plants and animals co-existing on the earth at one time, your hypothesis would be falsified. I'm surprised you haven't looked into this. You'd better stop wasting time changing the subject and get right on this. Wouldn't want to give the impression that we were just an dishonest, misdirection peddling asshat, now would we?
Capt.

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