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nator
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Message 106 of 140 (578452)
09-01-2010 7:16 PM


OK, I have been back to EVC for only a few hours and already I'm finding myself needing to call out the sexist language.

dick/prick = jerk, or forceful

pussy = weak/cowardly

Any heterosexual man who uses pussy as a synonym for "weak" or "cowardly" clearly has no familiarity with the things.


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Message 107 of 140 (578455)
09-01-2010 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by nator
09-01-2010 7:16 PM


Any heterosexual man who uses pussy as a synonym for "weak" or "cowardly" clearly has no familiarity with the things.

QFT


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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Message 108 of 140 (578463)
09-01-2010 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Straggler
09-01-2010 12:52 PM


Re: Yesterday All My Troubles Seemed So far Away
My first (and only that I can recall) suspension came as a result of a bit of nonsense between me, Archer and Faith beginning with Message 141.

I tried to get suspended in Message 283. I guess you can't get one on purpose.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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bluegenes
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Message 109 of 140 (578486)
09-01-2010 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by nator
09-01-2010 7:16 PM


Scaredy cats.
nator writes:

OK, I have been back to EVC for only a few hours and already I'm finding myself needing to call out the sexist language.
dick/prick = jerk, or forceful

pussy = weak/cowardly

Any heterosexual man who uses pussy as a synonym for "weak" or "cowardly" clearly has no familiarity with the things.

A very forceful post, nator, and well laced with ignorance. Pussy is, I think, mainly an Americanism for vagina, although we do now sometimes use it here. The "scaredy cat" you might know from the 1940s cartoon, and the cowardly lion from The Wizard of Oz, but the association of the cat with its tail between its legs with cowardice goes back much further than that.

The cowardly lion, or lion couard may well have arrived on this island with the Normans. It's a well known symbol in heraldry.

http://littre.reverso.net/...rancais/definition/couard/16886

"Scaredy cat" commonly, and "soft pussy" occasionally are expressions I remember from my 1960s London childhood. I probably wouldn't have known the American use of pussy for vagina at that time.

I called straggler a pussy first on this thread. If I wanted to call him a slang name for the vagina in English English, I'd have called him a "cunt", which isn't associated with cowardice, but is widely considered to be both crude and sexist here because it's used to describe someone bad or nasty, and why give such an association to the vagina?

I didn't (and wouldn't) call him a cunt.

If you're going to admonish people on the board, try not to do so from a position of ignorance.

Welcome back to EvC, the place that keeps you on your toes.


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Blue Jay
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Message 110 of 140 (578566)
09-02-2010 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Straggler
08-31-2010 6:41 PM


2000 posts
This is my 2000th post.


-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

Darwin loves you.


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Blue Jay
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Message 111 of 140 (578570)
09-02-2010 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Straggler
09-01-2010 6:57 PM


Re: Yesterday All My Troubles Seemed So far Away
Hi, Straggler.

This is my 2001st post.

Bluejay writes:

RAZD and Bluejay look up wearily from the exercise bikes to which they are eternally strapped.

Why'd you have to bring me into this? Especially for such a lame and creepy joke?

I suppose it doesn't surprise me: you have apparently been on a personal mission to be the direct cause of my first suspension at EvC. I mean, what other reason could you possibly have for the strange things you post?

Probably no one’s surprised I haven’t been suspended before. I figure I go under the radar because I’m too boring. Until now, I don’t think anyone’s* even bothered to make fun of me before.

*When I say “anyone,” I of course exclude creationists and Dr Adequate.

I suddenly feel like I belong... or something.

Not surprisingly, I also suddenly wish I didn’t feel like I belong.

Edited by Bluejay, : Without the smiley, I sounded like a dick.


-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

Darwin loves you.


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Straggler
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Message 112 of 140 (578627)
09-02-2010 6:24 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Blue Jay
09-02-2010 1:06 AM


Re: Yesterday All My Troubles Seemed So far Away
BluJ writes:

Especially for such a lame and creepy joke?

It was very tasteless and not even that funny. For those two things I do apologise.

BluJ writes:

Not surprisingly, I also suddenly wish I didn’t feel like I belong.

Of course you belong. But in future I shall bear in mind what a sensitive soul you are before embroiling you in my nasty minded nonsense.


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nator
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Message 113 of 140 (578645)
09-02-2010 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by bluegenes
09-01-2010 8:26 PM


Re: Scaredy cats.
but the association of the cat with its tail between its legs with cowardice goes back much further than that.

Frightened cats don't put their tails between their legs; dogs do.

Frightened cats slink low to the ground, and put their tails straight behind them.

Edited by returninator, : added quote


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Message 114 of 140 (578650)
09-02-2010 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by nator
09-02-2010 7:29 AM


Re: Scaredy cats.
nator writes:

Frightened cats don't put their tails between their legs; dogs do.

I know. But that's far from being the only lack of realism in heraldry.

I suppose the likely direct source for "scaredy cats" is just our experience of our own domesticated species, simply because they're small mammals, and if we do want to shoo feral cats or the neighbours' cats from our gardens, they run.

Lots of human expressions don't really make much sense, including our genital based swear words.

If you want to have a go from a feminist point of view at expressions used here on EvC, "grow a pair" seems to be cropping up fairly regularly.

As the implication is that people who don't have a "pair" are feeble wimps, that might be a very reasonable target.

I'll now have to apologise to that soft pussycat, Straggler, for being way off topic on his thread.

Do you have an interesting first suspension back in the dark ages that you can pull up?

Edited by bluegenes, : missing word


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nator
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Message 115 of 140 (578654)
09-02-2010 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by bluegenes
09-02-2010 7:52 AM


Re: Scaredy cats.
I've never been suspened for breaking any debate rules.
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Message 116 of 140 (578656)
09-02-2010 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by nator
09-02-2010 8:05 AM


Re: Scaredy cats.
I've never been suspened for breaking any debate rules.

Pussy.


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Blue Jay
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Message 117 of 140 (578680)
09-02-2010 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Straggler
09-02-2010 6:24 AM


Re: Yesterday All My Troubles Seemed So far Away
Hi, Straggler.

Strag writes:

But in future I shall bear in mind what a sensitive soul you are.

No worries, dude: it's just the weirdness of it that got to me.

Since you seem to have given me a rapper name for use in qs-boxes, I tried to come up with one for you, but your handle (and my creative center) seems immune to not-lame ones, such as:

Strag-La
Stragosaurus
Straguar
Stragwag
etc.

So, "Strag" is all you get, even though it makes you sound like a beefy biker with a mohawk a lame cyberpunk movie.


-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

Darwin loves you.


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Straggler
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Message 118 of 140 (578695)
09-02-2010 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by Blue Jay
09-02-2010 10:04 AM


What's In A Name
BluJ writes:

So, "Strag" is all you get, even though it makes you sound like a beefy biker with a mohawk a lame cyberpunk movie.

I hadn't realised we'd met.

BluJ writes:

Since you seem to have given me a rapper name for use in qs-boxes...

BluJ. It's kinda street. I like it.

BluJ writes:

So, "Strag" is all you get....

Well "Strags" is what I use when referring to myself in my silly songs. "Struggler" has been regularly used here at EvC by various opponents. StraggleBunny and StraggleHoney are probably inappropriately affectionate.

Strag will do.


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Message 119 of 140 (578720)
09-02-2010 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Straggler
09-02-2010 8:12 AM


Re: Scaredy cats.
Straggler writes:

nator writes:

I've never been suspened for breaking any debate rules.


Pussy.

Don't confuse cowardice with finesse.


Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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Straggler
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Message 120 of 140 (578726)
09-02-2010 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by ringo
09-02-2010 12:26 PM


Re: Scaredy cats.
Ringo writes:

Don't confuse cowardice with finesse.

“Finesse”. Yes! That is exactly what those of us who have avoided suspension possess.

Beware my subtle charms…..


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