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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Hey, athiest person welcome. I'll see that you're included in my prayers. A good place for you to start, imo would be at my THE EXODUD REVEALED thread and have a look at what appears to be Pharoah's chariot junkyard preserved in coral formations on the sandbar underwater natural bridge in the Aqaba gulf off the Red Sea. Maybe it'l help your athiesm. I know athiesm is about as hard to cure as arthritis, but neither are impossible. Enjoy.
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
Hey AdminAsgara, don't make me laminate you.
The Laminator
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
lam -- check your sig for /color switch?
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
"The Laminator " I just copied and pasted from my sig in profile. I think you need to press refresh or something. Can anyone else see that it is yellow? [This message has been edited by Lam, 04-20-2004] The Laminator
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I think you are missing the off switch -- it is yellow but so is what follows it.
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Preacher Larry Inactive Member |
I stumbled into this site a few days ago and was thrilled to see various opinions being expressed in a civilized manner. I'm a 58 year old Southern Baptist minister who became a Christian in 1992. My schedule doesn't permit me a lot of free time, but I will try to check in periodically.
Everyone have a great day and God bless... GOD LOVES YOU AND HAS A PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1504 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Rut ROW.."scooby"
"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2303 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Welcome to EvC Larry. We do TRY to keep it relatively civil around here.
Hope you can stick around and participate. Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.com
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Preacher Larry Inactive Member |
I would love to stick around, but it's time for bed and it's getting late. I went to your Website though and had a look. Have a good evening. God bless...
GOD LOVES YOU AND HAS A PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE
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Petra Inactive Member |
I just joined today (16th of May)
Lately I'm investigating a lot about the creation and evolution. Personally I'd go with the creation. When I look around in this beautifully designed world I find it hard to believe all of this 'just happened'. I believe we are no accident at all but that we were created by a magnificent Architect. I will respect other opinions. Everybody had the choise to believe what he/she wants. I believe God gave us a free choise, who am I to take that away. Well... that's it for now.I'm not gonna be here every day, I have a busy job, so if I don't respond to a response right away, don't be offended. ^__^ 1Cor 1:25 "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men."
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NosyNed Member Posts: 8996 From: Canada Joined: |
Welcome to EvCforum. You'll find that most here respect others opinions too. This is especially true if they are voiced in a respectful tone.
May I suggest you read over the forum guidelines?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
When I look around in this beautifully designed world I find it hard to believe all of this 'just happened'. When I look around and see backward's-facing retinas in the human eye, spines not designed for upright travel, knees that barely work, and other example of pretty crappy design that works just barely well enough to keep us alive long enough to have sex, I find it hard to believe that we're the agency of any sort of design but the most incompetent. On the other hand, the way things are is exactly what we would expect from evolution. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but while there may be a superficial appearance of design to the world, the more you dig into it, the less purposeful it starts to look. Welcome, BTW. This message has been edited by crashfrog, 05-16-2004 03:53 PM
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Give a guy a chance, Crash, this is not the thread to jump on. k?
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Petra Inactive Member |
Crashfrog writes: When I look around and see backward's-facing retinas in the human eye, spines not designed for upright travel, knees that barely work, and other example of pretty crappy design that works just barely well enough to keep us alive long enough to have sex, I find it hard to believe that we're the agency of any sort of design but the most incompetent. On the other hand, the way things are is exactly what we would expect from evolution. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but while there may be a superficial appearance of design to the world, the more you dig into it, the less purposeful it starts to look. I do hope you take the time to read my answer. It's a bit long, but I'd like to respond. Do you blame God for the creation being incompetent? Why is it incompetent in the first place? Did God make it that way?Let's see why it really became like this. When God created the Earth, He made it very good:Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. So, if God made the Earth very good, so God is not the one who messed up. Who messed up? Why is the world fulled with bad stuff? Well...: Man sinned. But why did man sin? Gen 3:6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate God had forbidden them to eat from that tree.Why did Eve eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. So, the serpent... Satan, told Eve she could eat the fruit. She would not die, he told her. Aaah... so man sinned because Satan seduced them.Man had a choise of his own to do or do not sin, but they chose to sin. So, actually it's Satan's fault and man's fault that the Earth has gone bad. Man betrayed God by eating the fruit. And this is what God said to them: Gen. 3:14 So the Lord God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this,You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel." 16 To the woman He said:"I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you." 17 Then to Adam He said, "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat of it': "Cursed is the ground for your sake;In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. 18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return." So, God made the Earth beautiful. And it still is, you might wanna look further then the flaws, which were caused by man in the first place. Thank you for your time.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So you are saying that the basic poor design of humans resulted after the FALL? Are you saying that Humans today are different species than Adam & Eve?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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