Is God Evil?

So if I have a child I reserve the right to take that life away?What you are saying is that we are your gods possessions and he can do with us as he pleases and we should praise his name as he condemns the tiny children to short brutal lives of pain and misery and it is his right to do so.Really Iano? Really?Edited by Larni, : second paragraph

I think the point is that the Supreme being is being evil rather than good. And I would suggest that it would be an evil thing to do to a sentient being.Edited by Larni, : First point.

Well obviously no one died as a result of the Yawehs' actions in reality but for the sake of argument we have to grant his existance for this discussion to even take place.The point remains that his actions are evil and it does not matter that he is in charge.I would suggest that his actions serve no one apart from himself and this is selfish.I would suggest that his actions cause extreme pain and misery for many people and this is cruel.You cannot say he gets a free pass because he holds all the cards. I would hazard that he has an obligation to his creations to treat them in a manner that causes least pain.His ability to foresee how his nasty little experiments turns out means that he does not have to put people through all the grief he has.He tortures people because he can.No other reason.That's evil.

So what you are saying is that yes, he is evil, but as we cannot hold him to account we should just lump it?.I fail to say why this stops him being labled accurarely as evil.The fact he does not care that we view him as evil does not stop him being a monster.If he did care he would not do it. He should set it up for himself. It seems so important that we live in specified way, to him, eh? Edited by Larni, : Last 2 sentences.

Book of Job.Yahweh lets Satan persecute Job just to prove a point. This does not follow. Yahweh could be a god but not The God. So when I killed all them people back in the twenties in India that's fine because it was a different time and place? This I don't get: the point is that he is evil in deed. The point is not that we are going to do anything to him.You can still label someone justiably as evil even if you can make no attempt to punish him for his bastardry.

If anything it makes it even worse.If he is omniscient and knows for certain that all the pain some people suffer has a point in some infallible plan then some of the motivation could be 'for the greater god'.As it stands this 'Supreme Being' is so supreme that he is restricted in his morality by that of his creation.

As you wish.

This was an evil act. That's the whole point of the thread. When millions of people are intentionally killed for not towing the party line it is evil.You can't say that your god has not (by human standards) acted in an evil way.

So you're god has given me the ability to tell right from wrong, but hang on; not really because what I think is evil is in fact good?Way to go Yahweh!Numpty.

Please don't preach to me.

But this can't be true of a child who dies without any knowledge of god.

It was my understanding of your belief that faith was the conduit of salvation.Is this not what you said in our 'Great Debate' back in the day?A pre language child cannot posibly have faith.No faith, no salvation.

And this is way it is valid to call your god evil.

And therefore no point in worshipping.

Blimey O'Reilly, Iano.I could say exactly the same about you, though, too couldn't I?I could say that your god has duped you to acquiescing to his rule that he can do what ever he likes and you lump it.I could say it's a bit like saying 'thank you' for being fucked up the arse.I could say all of that because that is how it's coming across from you.I'm sure that's not what you mean: could you rephrase what you mean?