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Meldinoor
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Message 110 of 139 (536132)
11-20-2009 1:32 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Arphy
11-20-2009 1:17 AM


Re: Is morality based on an opinion vote?
And theists don't have a choice?
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 111 of 139 (536133)
11-20-2009 1:43 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Arphy
11-20-2009 1:32 AM


Re: More creationist pap
Arphy writes:
depends on what you are defining as macroevolution. Anyway, I think the point of the article was to show that the Homo species would be better classified as one species
They can say whatever they want. Where's the research that shows that a genus can suddenly be treated as a species? When the peddlers of creationism circumvent the scientific method to make wild assertions, that's pretty much equivalent to lying.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 114 of 139 (536136)
11-20-2009 1:58 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Arphy
11-20-2009 1:48 AM


Re: Is morality based on an opinion vote?
Hi Arphy,
Thank you and likewise.
Arphy writes:
As has been pointed out, christians have the bible which tells us what we should not do. So no, we don't really have a choice, unless we decide to disregard the bible. Also, sometimes we don't live up to the morals, however this doesn't mean that we don't try to live by them.
While we're really way off-topic at this point, I will respond to the quoted excerpt. You are right that we Christians do have the Bible as a guideline, however, as you pointed out, we have a choice to live by it or disregard it. Likewise, an atheist with a set of morals (God-given or no) can choose to follow these or disregard them.
The fact that we see spiritual consequences from our actions, rather than just immediate earthly ones doesn't change the fact that both atheists and theists have choices to make.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 115 of 139 (536137)
11-20-2009 2:15 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Arphy
11-20-2009 1:55 AM


Re: More creationist pap
Arphy writes:
Not just any genus. Have a look at the link coyote provided for an example.
I noticed that the fact that Neanderthal's had similar teeth was one of the reasons they wanted to group them with Homo Sapiens as a species. I saw a very simplistic table comparing australopithecines and hominids, that carefully avoided using any actual data.
There were other things I didn't like about the article, but as I am feeling very tired at the moment, I'm not going to give a detailed review of the article.
Arphy writes:
eh?? Please don't make wild assertions . Back it up with a example at least, preferably with some sort of reference as well.
Very well.
quote:
Adam and Eve, and not the australopiths/habilines, are our actual ancestors.
That was easy Same page by the way.
Respectfully (as always)
-Meldinoor
PS. I apologize for the brevity and possible rudeness of my posts tonight. I recently got back from a poker night and feel I may have imbibed enough beer to compromise my ability to write as coherently as usual. I'll be back right as rain tomorrow, I hope. See you then.

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Meldinoor
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Message 131 of 139 (536261)
11-20-2009 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by slevesque
11-19-2009 1:36 PM


Great Debate
Hi Slevesque,
You are invited to take part in a new Great Debate thread. Clicky
The thread discusses the written debate that Arphy linked to in this thread.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor
Edited by Meldinoor, : No reason given.

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