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Species/Kinds (for Peg...and others)

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Asgara

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Message 170 of 425 (540633)
12-27-2009 12:04 AM

Reply to: Message 168 by Peg
12-26-2009 11:51 PM

One quick question Peg, how do you know that humans and chimps can't hybridize? What experiments have been done? How about humans and orangutans?

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Asgara

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Message 174 of 425 (540637)
12-27-2009 12:31 AM

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12-27-2009 12:16 AM

Do you know that human sperm has been tested and does penetrate a gibbon egg?

Sperm/egg interaction: the specificity of human spermatozoa - PubMed

Gibbons are the apes furthest from humans on an evolutionary scale if I remember correctly.

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Message 228 of 425 (541143)
12-31-2009 11:39 PM

Reply to: Message 226 by ICANT
12-31-2009 10:42 PM

Re: Kind (Wolves)

I question your specific claim: (bolding mine)

...But if you leave them alone in the wild insemination will never happen ...

Without mankind's intervention there would be no wolf dog....

Wolf Dog Hybrids in the Wild

Rare but it does happen

If fact, wolf and dog are not the only canid hybrids found in the wild.

Other Canid Hybrids

It seems that some domestic dog breeds are inching towards non-interfertility.

Are all "dogs" interfertile?

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Message 247 of 425 (541207)
01-01-2010 2:06 PM

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01-01-2010 1:40 PM

Re: Kind (Wolves)

you stated that it will never happen in the wild:

...But if you leave them alone in the wild insemination will never happen ...

Without mankind's intervention there would be no wolf dog....

Just showing that yes it does occur in the wild, and not just wolves and dogs.

You don't call that human intrvention?

By necessity, it would have to happen where there is a population of dogs, and populations of dogs generally happen near human habitation. No I do NOT call this human "intervention".

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