Dawkins and "The Great Tim Tebow Fallacy" (re: pro-life advertisement)

Hey Straggler. The technology's already there, fellas. It's call fertility treatments. I can guarantee you that with Clomid, injectable treatments like Follistim, as well as intrauterine insemination or hell, IVF if you want to go "all in", we'd whittle that 70% down by maybe three-quarters (a good faith estimate ). We'd have to make these treatments mandatory for all women of childbearing age, regardless of cost, because, you know, cost shouldn't be a consideration when considering the life of death of the unborn.Yes, it's a ridiculous premise, but one I thought was interesting. Would Hyro then argue we'd need to go this far, if it's indeed a possibility? To what end? Overpopulation? As if it doesn't exist already! How far will the pro-life crowd wish to extend the argument? If it doesn't necessarily extend to the lengths I outlined above, then I believe one's standpoint need be reevaluated.Have a good one.Edited by Apothecus, : whoops! hit "reply" to wrong message. oh well, you gents get the point...

Hey CS.Is not "original sin" a core tenet of the Catholic faith? If so, this would explain the traditional Catholic standpoint on everything from birth control pills to Plan-B to full out abortion. So if I'm thinking correctly, according to some, due to original sin, all of these naturally or artificially aborted fetuses what? Go to hell? Is that really what Catholics generally think happens? Do you subscribe to this as a Catholic? Why?Just curious, and maybe you could shed some light on my confusion. Have a good one.

I do see what you mean. You realize I was using facetiousness to extend the argument, right?Thanks for the info regarding Catholicism. It's kind of what I thought I had heard (grew up in a mostly Cath. community, dated a few Cath schoolgirls ), especially the baptism thing, but I couldn't quite remember. But thanks.And now back to the topic at hand, eh?Have a good one.

Back in Message 105 I put forward a proposal for mandatory fertility treatments for all women of childbearing age. You wanted technology to all but eliminate miscarriages (known or unknown)...well, it's already here! Coupled with mandatory breeding, we could have this place swarming in NO time.Babies for everyone!!!

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"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964