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Rahvin
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Message 76 of 91 (547598)
02-20-2010 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 3:39 PM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Make that, we the vigilant people, who question the Bill Ayres terrorist connection, the Nation Of Islam connection via Obama's former church who's pastor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, advocated racist black supremicism, the president who's admin absolves the Black Panthers from inditement for voter intimidation, the radical Accorn community organizer, the candidate endorsed by the Communist Party, Hammas and most of Islam, the president who envisions a paramilitary civilian (likely thug as Iran has) army equal to that of the legitimate national military to keep the sheeples in line and the president who's administration consists of appointed radical czars unconfirmed by Congress.
All red herrings Buzz, as they have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with either Obama's legal qualification to be President in general or his citizenship status in particular. Care to address the actual discussion?

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Taz
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Message 77 of 91 (547601)
02-20-2010 4:48 PM
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02-20-2010 2:51 PM


hooah212002 writes:
They are white with American names...
Flash back to 1973 (not really, I'm not that old, but it really feels like it's been this long since I was in college). I was taking a sociology class to fulfill my core classes. One day, the topic of the discussion for the week was the word "American" and how it applies to everyday people.
Normally, in such a situation I usually kept my mouth shut. Being as white as white could get and growing up in a whiter than white community attending a predominantly black and latino class, I thought I'd pay attention to what other people had to say about the topic.
I've forgotten most of the conversations that took place. There was one that stood out that I still remember clearly to this day. It was a debate between a son of a Mexican immigrant and a German blond. When the professor asked the Mexican American guy if he thought he was American, he said yes and began to give his reasons why including the fact that he was born here. Then the blond interrupted and said "no, you're not American, you're Mexican." She then went ahead and asked him why he was denying his cultural heritage. He asked her why he wasn't American and she said (and I swear, she actually said this, word for word), "you're not white".
All hell broke loose in the class after that.
The point is I knew this girl. I wouldn't consider her intentionally racist, but I thought she was innocently racist. What do I mean by innocently racist? It describes those who show all the symptoms of racism but do not think they are racist. This girl honestly believed that American referred to white people.
My point is isn't this the attitude of a lot of people out there?
I truly think these people honestly don't think themselves as racist. And yet they show all the symptoms of racism. Buzsaw seems to belong to this group.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 78 of 91 (547609)
02-20-2010 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 3:39 PM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Make that, we the vigilant people ...
Unless the meaning of "vigilant" has changed to "gullible and hysterical" since last I looked, I'll stick with "a handful of paranoid lunatics" as a more accurate characterization.

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Buzsaw
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Message 79 of 91 (547610)
02-20-2010 5:38 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by DevilsAdvocate
02-20-2010 12:01 AM


Nothing Here
DA writes:
So Buzz, you are basically saying that various officials in State of Hawaii including the Director of the Department of Health and its Governor Linda Lingel (BTW a Republican) have committed perjury. If you think that the case than better get a lawyer.
Buz has said no such thing. There's nothing in the letter relative to any information in the original certificate. All this says is that the certificate has been properly handled. It does not say anything pro or con relative to naturalization etc..
Tell me this, DA. Why have Obama's constituents spent big $$ to avoid producing a copy of the original?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 80 of 91 (547611)
02-20-2010 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 5:38 PM


Re: Nothing Here
Tell me this, DA. Why have Obama's constituents spent big $$ to avoid producing a copy of the original?
Don't ask us to explain events in your fantasy world.

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Buzsaw
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Message 81 of 91 (547614)
02-20-2010 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Taz
02-20-2010 4:48 PM


Taz writes:
I truly think these people honestly don't think themselves as racist. And yet they show all the symptoms of racism. Buzsaw seems to belong to this group.
Taz, do I need remind you that I donated to and voted for Allan Keys, conservative candidate for president, black as black skin gets? I've reminded over and again whenever this charge arises how over the years I've been associated with and worked with black friends whom I admire and other blacks whom I do not, just as it is with white folks. I recently hired a black friend to help me remove, repair and replace a truck tranny. Sometimes he was on my premises while I was not home because I fully trusted him. I have given the largest portion of charity over the years to black African nationalists who have been empoverished and persecuted by Communist and Muslim radicals.
Taz, you have been here at EvC a number of years. Why do you keep promoting this meanspirited blatant falsehood about Buz being racist?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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DrJones*
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Message 82 of 91 (547616)
02-20-2010 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 6:04 PM


Taz, do I need remind you that I donated to and voted for Allan Keys, conservative candidate for president, black as black skin gets? I've reminded over and again whenever this charge arises how over the years I've been associated with and worked with black friends whom I admire and other blacks whom I do not, just as it is with white folks. I recently hired a black friend to help me remove, repair and replace a truck tranny. Sometimes he was on my premises while I was not home because I fully trusted him. I have given the largest portion of charity over the years to black African nationalists who have been empoverished and persecuted by Communist and Muslim radicals.
Taz, you have been here at EvC a number of years. Why do you keep promoting this meanspirited blatant falsehood about Buz being racist?
A. None of this is verifiable
2: your own words show you to be a racist:
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.
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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

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Taz
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Message 83 of 91 (547617)
02-20-2010 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 6:04 PM


My life experiences have taught me a very important lesson about this topic. Modern day racists often advertise the fact that they have black friends or support this black candidate or that black candidate. Just like modern day homophobes tend to start their sentences with "I have gay friends..."
We identify these bigots by looking at the contents of their character and the beliefs they hold. It's like placing pieces of the puzzle together. But why do we need to put the pieces of the puzzle together at all, you may ask? Because bigotry has fallen out of fashion in this day and age, and therefore the bigots will not willingly identify themselves as bigots or make it easy for the rest of us to tell.
The most obvious example is the late President Bush. Of course he denies religious bigotry on his part. Of course he advocates some kind of civil union for gay people. In this day and age, it is fashionable for a person to officially say these things. But when he was governor of Texas, he openly supported the criminalization of homosexuality. In other words, he supported the jailing of people for this biblical crime.
If it quacks like a duck...

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 84 of 91 (547618)
02-20-2010 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 5:38 PM


Re: Nothing Here
Tell me this, DA. Why have Obama's constituents spent big $$ to avoid producing a copy of the original?
And you can show me how much Obama has spent "to avoid producing a copy of the original"? No didn't think so.
How much money, time and the effort has the birther's spent propogating this bullshit and obfuscating this lie?l Even hard core republicans have renounced the birther's allegations as bullshit.
You are just a fountain of bullshit aren't you Buzz.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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hooah212002
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Message 85 of 91 (547621)
02-20-2010 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 6:04 PM


That whole statement WREAKS of hidden racism, Buz.
Sometimes he was on my premises while I was not home because I fully trusted him.
Really? Why does this even have to be said? Should we assume that black people aren't to be trusted? You MUST point out that you trusted this one?
I think Taz pretty much nailed it. Not much more can be said.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Message 86 of 91 (547622)
02-20-2010 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Taz
02-20-2010 6:14 PM


That's your perrogative to call me a liar, Taz. I fear Judge Jehovah. You do not. Jehovah will judge us both in the by and by. We'll both be judged as we judge others to some extent according to the scriptures.
Take care. Jesus will return. Peace and justice will finally prevail upon earth, as it is in Heaven!

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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hooah212002
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Message 87 of 91 (547623)
02-20-2010 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 6:43 PM


{Irrelevant one-liner hidden - Adminnemooseus}
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Guess.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Also shut off signature for this one.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 88 of 91 (547624)
02-20-2010 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 6:43 PM


That's your perrogative to call me a liar, Taz. I fear Judge Jehovah. You do not. Jehovah will judge us both in the by and by. We'll both be judged as we judge others to some extent according to the scriptures.
Take care. Jesus will return. Peace and justice will finally prevail upon earth, as it is in Heaven!
At that point, will you stop bearing false witness?

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Buzsaw
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Message 89 of 91 (547626)
02-20-2010 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by hooah212002
02-20-2010 6:42 PM


hooah writes:
Really? Why does this even have to be said? Should we assume that black people aren't to be trusted? You MUST point out that you trusted this one?
Hi Hooah. Some white racists would be prone not to trust blacks or vise versa. Sure. OJ Simpson's predominant black jury certainly didn't trust the prosecution's predominate white witnesses who's testimony were quite solid for conviction.
Edited by Buzsaw, : enquote

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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hooah212002
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Message 90 of 91 (547629)
02-20-2010 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 7:03 PM


Right there, Buz. Racism is so ingrained in you, you see it as normal. EVERYTHING is a race issue with you, isn't it? Hell, you probably think fucking jesus is a white american too, don't you?

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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