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ramoss
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Message 64 of 110 (264718)
12-01-2005 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Ragged
11-30-2005 4:04 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
Well, it doesn't matter of ID is assumed to be wrong or right. ID does not make any predictions. It does not have any explanitory powers. It can not be tested.
So far, the only thing that the major proponents of ID have done is point to the places we are ignorant about, proclaimed "It's too complex to happened naturally", and then say 'Oh, it must be a designer'.
When the I.D. proponents come up with a valid method of testing their ideas, then it can be considered. They are more interested in the politics of getting it in schools rather than the science of making it predictive and testable.

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ramoss
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Message 69 of 110 (264787)
12-01-2005 3:51 PM
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12-01-2005 10:54 AM


Re: Evolution is NOT Devilution
I am not surprised. There are certainly many devote christians that do not reject evolution, since they accept that Genesis was meant as an allegory.
Evolution, as a scientific theory , says nothing one way or another about a deity. The religious people who study it might take as a matter of faith that God has something to do with it, but the honest ones know it is a faith issue, not a science one.

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ramoss
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Message 94 of 110 (264995)
12-02-2005 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Christian7
12-01-2005 9:53 PM


Do you know what evolution is? What is the scientfic defintion of evolution? What you desecribed IS evolution.
If you are specifically asking for speciation events,
How about the speciation of the Faroe Island Mouse, which occured within 250 years of the introduction of the mouse on the faroe island? You can read up on it i tanley, S., 1979. Macroevolution: Pattern and Process, San Francisco, W.H. Freeman and Company. p. 41

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ramoss
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Message 95 of 110 (264996)
12-02-2005 8:28 AM
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12-01-2005 9:59 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
That is a faith statement. What objective evidence do you have of this?
We have objective evidence for evolution. Evolution has made predictions, and can be used in real world situations for , amoung other things, the development of antibodics and vaccines.
I take it then that since you invoked 'God' and "Jesus", you are admitting that "Intelligent Design" is not science, but is a faith matter??

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