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Author Topic:   Proof of evolution!!!
bkelly
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Message 51 of 110 (264589)
11-30-2005 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Modulous
11-29-2005 3:00 AM


Re: Evolved
Modulous writes:
Yes, computers have evolved, they have changed over time. You, mr alien, have made a valid inference.
No, computers have not evolved. The phrasing that computers have evolved is evidence of our anthropomorphic tendencies. Our ability to create ever more complex and capable computers has improved over the years. The computer itself has not evolved one bit. (pun not intended, but I like it anyway)
The alien reached the wrong conclusion and is more human that it admits.

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bkelly
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Message 56 of 110 (264601)
11-30-2005 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Phat
11-30-2005 10:30 AM


HOW do you know?
Phat writes:
Some of us DO know the Designer!
How do you know the designer?
Before you reply, please allow me clarify how I am reading the word “know” and maybe preempt some misunderstandings.
Know: as in have substantiated information as to something being true.
Believe: as in hold the opinion that something is true.
Know: as used in the phrase I quoted: to be an acquaintance of.
By saying that you know (acquaintance) the designer, you imply that you know (have substantiated) that the designer does exist.
What makes you certain that the designer exists as opposed to just believe it? The bible is known to have errors and inconsistencies. The handed down word of our parents and of religious leaders is known to have errors and inconsistencies. By what logic are you certain that the designer exists?
Have you personally communicated with the designer? If yes, please specify what type of communications you have had:
1. designer to Phat
2. Phat to designer
3. two way communications
And how were those communications manifested?
Enquiring minds want to know!

Truth fears no question.
bkelly

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bkelly
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Message 74 of 110 (264835)
12-01-2005 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Phat
12-01-2005 3:38 AM


Re: HOW do you know?
Hello Phat,
Your reply is honest and straightforward. While there might be a few minor points to quibble, the essence of your response is so overwhelmingly in the positive any quibbling would just detract.
The only point I would like to refrhesh is: How is this communication between the design and you implemented? I am certain you will address that in your reply.
I fully respect your answer and will paitently wait for your response. I am interested in an honest thought on these topics. In my not so humble opinion, if this thread has run its course when you are ready to answer, your position on this is well worth a coffee house (or some other) topic. Just toss it out and say here is what I think. (as if I have any business advising you on that) Since you are an admin, can you find a way to email me in case I miss that topic?
Until then,
Bkelly

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bkelly
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Message 75 of 110 (264842)
12-01-2005 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Christian7
12-01-2005 5:14 PM


Guidosoft quoting a mesg writes:
Stone knifes, aeroplanes, computers or blocks of flats don't have this capability: they can't evolve! The alien is invoking an untestable magical event - ring any bells?
Guidosoft writes:
Yep evolution.
As I read that you are saying the evolution is an untestable magical event. If so, you are very wrong indeed. The concept of evolution has been shown to be factual and emminantly testable.
For example, all modern dogs are decended from wolves. Humans have created what might be called an artificial environment and those that best fit that environment survived and evolved.
Honeybees and african bees together evolved into a new race of what we call killer bees. New species of orchids are being created in multiple places in the world. Evolution is indeed much more than a theory, it is indeed factual.

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bkelly
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Message 76 of 110 (264847)
12-01-2005 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by ramoss
12-01-2005 3:51 PM


Re: Evolution is NOT Devilution
ramoss writes:
There are certainly many devote christians that do not reject evolution....
That is quite true. For example, how about
THE PEOPLE IN THE VATICAN!
(not yelling at you, just saying it really loud) They are about as devout as one can get and they also say ID is not a science.
(btw: I just went here http:///WebPages/GettingStarted.html
to see how to format bold large text instead of all caps and got page not founds. Where is a good example when you need it?>

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bkelly
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Message 81 of 110 (264877)
12-01-2005 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by robinrohan
12-01-2005 6:08 PM


Re: Evolution is NOT Devilution
robinrohan writes:
This fact just tends to re-enforce for the descendants of the Puritans that, like they always said, Popery is the home of the AntiChrist.
I agree with that. The feeling is probably mutual. Now we should examine the situation. Here we have two mutually exclusive and irreconcilable positions. They both cannot be right. At most, one can be right.
To expand, there are hundreds of religions, all of which are mutually exclusive and irreconcilable. At most, how many are right? The apparent answer is one. The real answer: None.

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