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ZenMonkey
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Message 486 of 526 (554013)
04-05-2010 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by DevilsAdvocate
04-05-2010 9:22 PM


Third possibility.
DevilsAdvocate writes:
Now I am thinking you are:
a. a troll
b. a delusional schizophrenic
I think it likely that Faith is simply demonstrating the inherent irrationality of the modern American "conservative." Faith is revealing her brainwashing.
Corporate powers want to destroy the government so that they can operate without restraint. Corporate powers have always worked to either own the government or destroy what they can't have. They have convinced social conservatives that economic liberalism - which is what gave this country environmental protections, a minimum wage, the 40-hour work week, workplace safety standards, social security, etc., etc - is the same thing as social liberalism. Basically, starting at least as far back as the Nixonian Southern Strategy, they have harnessed the fear and hatred that social conservatives feel (or can be trained to feel) for hippies, dark folks, non-submissive women, gays, and anyone else who's "different" and used it to get these same social conservatives to hate the very economic and political policies that have benefited them for generations. Why else do you think that bankrupt farmers and unemployed autoworkers can be convinced time after time to vote for candidates who are going to do everything possible to enable corporations to export jobs, pillage the economy and lay waste to the environment - basically to make life even worse for these same voters? All you have to do is to promise to outlaw abortion and you're in.
Corporate interests have the advantage, as they own the media and pretty much all of the government already. At this point there is no genuine left wing political representation left in this country. With one or two exceptions - Bernie Sanders, Barney Frank - all we really have are moderate Republicans (who call themselves Democrats) and batshit crazy Republicans. Compared to most of the rest of the First World, there are no real liberals in power at all. Real liberal policies, things like environmental protection, a sane healthcare system, and alternative energy, have no chance of happening.
Maybe someday, when this country is a smoking, stagnant, Third World trash heap, the conservatives dupes who bought Beck's and Limbaugh's cry to arms that trying to provide affordable healthcare to the majority of this country's citizens is the same thing as sending grandma to the gas chambers will finally realize too late how they've been lied to and used. Probably not, but maybe. Just keep telling these brainwashed saps that fascist liberals are trying to force them all into gay marriages and turn their children into evolutionist witches, and they'll let you rape their retirement funds every time.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon
What's the difference between a conspiracy theorist and a new puppy? The puppy eventually grows up and quits whining.
-Steven Dutch

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4531 days)
Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
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Message 521 of 526 (554263)
04-07-2010 2:43 AM
Reply to: Message 518 by RAZD
04-06-2010 8:57 PM


Brain in conflict with itself.
And yet another problem with cognitive dissonance is that the more the evidence piles up that your beliefs are wrong, the more invested you are in clinging to them at all costs. It's much easier to admit that you were wrong to buy a pair of of green and purple corduroy pants than it is to admit that you're gay and just wasted thirty years of your life as an anti-gay crusading evangelist.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon
What's the difference between a conspiracy theorist and a new puppy? The puppy eventually grows up and quits whining.
-Steven Dutch

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