The UK Election!!!!

Good stuff and welcome to our little experiment.To keep things simple in terms of seperating the issues with which to test Legend's methodology and your reasons for your choices do you mind if I translate your proposed issues into something like the following:

Voting reform - Parliament should better represent the number of votes each party receives

Tax reform - With the aim of reducing the gap between the richest and the poorest.

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Feel free to suggest alternative wording. Or we can just add your issues with your original wording if you prefer.

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The gap between rich and poor has grown under "Labour" and that is shameful.

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This is their greatest failing of the last 13 years IMHO.

Fine by me. Yeah. The problem I think is that Labour managed to trap themselves in a prison of their own making. They made themselves electable, but at the cost of their ambitions. They became terrified of any kind of bold action or challenge to the status quo. They were so afraid of losing the middle class vote that they simply sat on their hands. I think that if there is to be any point to a Labour government, they need to be more ambitious in their next administration, whenever that might be.Mutate and Survive

A massive missed opportunity. I think many considered them such an attractively electable proposition back in 1997 because of what they thought they could and would do. And the unelectability of the tories throughout most of the last 13 years makes such timidity completely unjustifiable even in a strictly practical electioneering sense.

Getting there.7 participants now and the following issues suggested:

Voting reform

Deficit reduction

Troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan

Get safely and stably out of recession with a long term view to economic stability.

Solve the elderly crisis (there are more and more of them, and it looks to continue to rise).

Less taxes!

Kick out the towelheads/cameljockeys/sandniggers!

Free education!

Financial reform (break up the banks so they have to stand on their own two feet).

Overhauling the nhs to reduce bureaucracy

Voting reform - Parliament should better represent the number of votes each party receives

Tax reform - With the aim of reducing the gap between the richest and the poorest.

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We still need a few more participants if possible. So anyone else?

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Immigration? Trident? Childcare? Science research funding? Anyone consider any of these or anything else as yet unmentioned to be the burning issues of the day? Speak now or forever hold your ballor paper!!!

If you do not receive the required number of Her Majesty's Subjects to respond I offer the following:1. Hold a Constitutional Convention and plebiscite adopting a formal Supreme Constitution of the land.2. Dissolve the monarchy.3. Join the Euro.

Fine by me. We can throw your suggestions into the pot. A written constitution and doing away with the monarchy are things I would certainly support. So that is 8 participants now and a decent range of issues. Any more? Final call to UK members.Legend - How are you envisaging that this list is reduced down to the two issues that actually get voted on? How would this work in your 40 million plus participants direct democracy setup?Here is the list of issues again:

Voting reform

Deficit reduction

Troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan

Get safely and stably out of recession with a long term view to economic stability.

Solve the elderly crisis (there are more and more of them, and it looks to continue to rise).

Less taxes!

Kick out the towelheads/cameljockeys/sandniggers!

Free education!

Financial reform (break up the banks so they have to stand on their own two feet).

Overhauling the nhs to reduce bureaucracy

Voting reform - Parliament should better represent the number of votes each party receives

Tax reform - With the aim of reducing the gap between the richest and the poorest.

Hold a Constitutional Convention and plebiscite adopting a formal Supreme Constitution of the land.

Dissolve the monarchy.

Join the Euro.

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Once Legend has told us how we are to select the two primary issues from this list we can do that. Then we need to somehow agree the wording of questions on which to vote.

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The experiment continues...........

First we find the two issues that were voted the most. OFTOMH I'd say these were:--Voting reform
--Free educationNow we need an alloted administrator to take this forward. I'm prepared to take up this role, if there are no objections.

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"Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred."

I object! This administrator is obviously biased! He didn't pick my "Kick out the towelheads!" proposal! It's clear he's a liberal communist who will destroy our country by wording the bills in such a way that honest Englishmen will be royally screwed, and the cameljockeys will get all the money again. and even their own party with this stupid "voting reform" (Yeah right, Dhimmy bend over take us from behind and introduce sharia law, that's what it is!)! I will not stand for it!It's clear that everybody is just afraid of the sandniggers to vote for my proposal, everybody agrees with it! they must! they're honest and true Englishmen like me!Quit being Dhimmy fags and join me for a better and brighter (heh, that rimes with whiter... wait, I'm not supposed to say that) Britain!

I foresee a rich future ahead of you as a journalist at the Daily Mail.TTFN,WK

Joking and obstinacy apart I genuinely thought the two issues (out of theose raised) that received most support were:

Voting reform

Defecit reduction

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Now we need an alloted administrator to take this forward. I'm prepared to take up this role, if there are no objections.

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I have no objection to that in principle. But I do object to your choice of the two main issues. "free education" seemed something of a one-off mention compared to other issues which were raised multiple times in different ways.

So is that what direct democracy is? A couple of self-appointed liberals who think they know what's best decide the issues to bring forward?What happened to discussion? Who voted on having these two issues come forward from the list?Did I miss the official vote? Was it ever announced that we would vote on which two issues to bring out from the list? Was there even any intention of having us, the public, vote on which issues to bring forward?What rules for voting have been established? Since there are two issues to bring out do we each get 2 votes? If none achieve a majority then what?Do the two of you just take it upon yourselves to decide?What kind of direct democracy are we practicing here? The directed dictated kind?I strongly object!New Issues:How do we decide which issues to bring from the list?
What voting method is to be used?

I agree with AZPaul3! What makes you think you can dictate to us what the wordings of the bill are! I demand a vote on every single word. This is a direct democracy afterall, not a "We tell you what to vote on, and will word it in such a way that the towelheads will always win"ocracy!I say votes on the wording of the bill!

Apparently so. Although this is one of the few occasions that Legend has been described as "liberal". What do you think this is? A friggin democracy? Oh........ I dunno. Well that was kinda the plan. I am denying all responsibility. It was Legend's idea. This is all his fault. Wasn't me guv. We woulda got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids!! Do we get to vote on that........?

HELP!!The foreigners are revolting!!! Whooah! Hold your horses there. We need to decide which two issues we are going to word a bill on first.Apparently myself and Legend just interpreting the messages so far received isn't considered good enough. So what do we do instead?

Well, let's anounce an official "voting round"... oh wait, we'd have to vote on if we're going to have a voting round, right? Should we vote on whether or not to have a voting round to determine whether or not to have a voting round? Oh dear, I see infinite regress and a terminal flaw in the system!Look, let's just kick out the towelheads, all problems will resolve themselves then.