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Taq
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Message 961 of 984 (808404)
05-10-2017 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 960 by Davidjay
05-10-2017 2:42 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
Davidjay writes:

I repeat, memorizing letters and vowel sounds help students learn to read. It takes some work to learn. Its not all luck and chance.
It takes some hard memory work in mathematics tables before mathematics makes more sense, rather than the dumbing down insane mathematics of today taught in our dumbing dowen schools. I repeat 3rd world countries have a better education system than the so called 1st world countries.

Knowing basics helps liberate one to discerning higher up truths and laws.

Luck and chance evolutionists have no applications in any other field of science. Its wasted time and effort learning nothingness that helps in no way.

Separate school and state and religion in our classrooms. Will it happen NO, because evolution is part of todays religion because todays religion is materialism, work for the man, work for the education system, work for a paycheck as the evolutionists do.

You said students should learn the scientific method. What is the scientific method, according to you?


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Message 962 of 984 (808408)
05-10-2017 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 958 by Davidjay
05-10-2017 11:55 AM


Are you confused, or trolling?
Message 953: No keep, schools for knowledge rather than theories. Teach facts and separate religion and the state.

They need to be taught the scientific method, they need tools for discernment rather than forced indocrination.

Are you confused?

Can you describe the steps involved with the Scientific Method?

Or will we get another slew of non-relevant answers bedded in insults?

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Message 963 of 984 (808409)
05-10-2017 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 961 by Taq
05-10-2017 2:47 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
Whats your opinion of school and state ? Separation or Not, that is the question and topic HERE.

I have stated many times and in different ways why I say separate the two, so if you differ, explain. If you agree then explain.

Stick to the topic......

Are you afraid to agree with me, because if so, then it means again you will be judging subjectively not objectively.

The opposite of school and state seaoaration is school and state union.....as in the school system dictating that only their secular uniformed unitelligent, undesigned evolutionary religion can be taught in schools and forced upon students.

Choose which side you are on in this debate.

Have some courage and state your alignment .

DSEWAGTH


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 964 of 984 (808418)
05-10-2017 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 963 by Davidjay
05-10-2017 3:00 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
Davidjay writes:

Whats your opinion of school and state ? Separation or Not, that is the question and topic HERE.
I have stated many times and in different ways why I say separate the two, so if you differ, explain. If you agree then explain.

Stick to the topic......

Are you afraid to agree with me, because if so, then it means again you will be judging subjectively not objectively.

The opposite of school and state seaoaration is school and state union.....as in the school system dictating that only their secular uniformed unitelligent, undesigned evolutionary religion can be taught in schools and forced upon students.

Choose which side you are on in this debate.

Have some courage and state your alignment .

You said that schools should teach the scientific method. What do you think the scientific method is? Can you describe it or not?


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Message 965 of 984 (808421)
05-10-2017 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 964 by Taq
05-10-2017 3:17 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
As mentioned, please state what side of the debate you are on......

Stick to the topic, or say you dont know what side you are on, or what your principles are.

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/Proveit.html


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 966 of 984 (808423)
05-10-2017 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 965 by Davidjay
05-10-2017 3:23 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
Davidjay writes:

As mentioned, please state what side of the debate you are on......
Stick to the topic, or say you dont know what side you are on, or what your principles are.

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/Proveit.html

Do you or do you not think that science classes should teach the scientific method? I am on the side that says schools should teach the scientific method. What about you?


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Tanypteryx
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Message 967 of 984 (808434)
05-10-2017 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 960 by Davidjay
05-10-2017 2:42 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
It takes some hard memory work in mathematics tables before mathematics makes more sense, rather than the dumbing down insane mathematics of today taught in our dumbing dowen schools. I repeat 3rd world countries have a better education system than the so called 1st world countries.

Judging from this and in fact, everything you write you never went to school, did you?

Taq writes:

You said students should learn the scientific method. What is the scientific method, according to you?

Are you afraid to answer Taq's question?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 968 of 984 (808441)
05-10-2017 7:58 PM


I'm trying to think of a science class I ever took that didn't talk about the scientific method, illustrated with the stories of the important discoveries in history.

In which field of science does the scientific method lead us to conclude that talking snakes want people to eat more fruit?


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Message 969 of 984 (808548)
05-11-2017 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 961 by Taq
05-10-2017 2:47 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
You said students should learn the scientific method. What is the scientific method, according to you?

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Of course, Jesus created science and all science and all fields should be stdied to help enquiring minds, and via the scienctific method, we all agree on, should be taught so they can have discernment rather than them being forced into compliance with every wierd doctrine that comes along.

SEE and read and study all my agreements and diorectives on The Science as Revealed Truth Thread.

And please state something you believe in, rather than just asking me question after question. Stand up for something, say something. Evolutionists need to come out of their shells and state something and explain their theories.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 970 of 984 (808549)
05-11-2017 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 968 by Chiroptera
05-10-2017 7:58 PM


Got ya again .. Think bat think
I'm trying to think of a science class I ever took that didn't talk about the scientific method, illustrated with the stories of the important discoveries in history.
In which field of science does the scientific method lead us to conclude that talking snakes want people to eat more fruit?

In which science course did they talk about bats turning into people....

I know, the new evolutionary courses where they demand that students believe that bats turn into people...

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Taq
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Message 971 of 984 (808551)
05-11-2017 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 969 by Davidjay
05-11-2017 12:56 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
Davidjay writes:

the scienctific method, we all agree on, should be taught so they can have discernment rather than them being forced into compliance with every wierd doctrine that comes along.

What do you mean by "scientific method"? What is it, according to you?


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Taq
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Message 972 of 984 (808552)
05-11-2017 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 970 by Davidjay
05-11-2017 12:57 PM


Re: Got ya again .. Think bat think
Davidjay writes:

In which science course did they talk about bats turning into people....

In which Sunday School class did they teach you to lie about what other people say?


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Message 973 of 984 (808556)
05-11-2017 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 969 by Davidjay
05-11-2017 12:56 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
You said students should learn the scientific method. What is the scientific method, according to you?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Of course, Jesus created science and all science and all fields should be stdied to help enquiring minds, and via the scienctific method, we all agree on, should be taught so they can have discernment rather than them being forced into compliance with every wierd doctrine that comes along.

So, you are admitting that you don't know what the Scientific Method is?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 974 of 984 (808558)
05-11-2017 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 972 by Taq
05-11-2017 1:00 PM


Re: Got ya again .. Think bat think
Chir means bat, CHir stated that bats are our primates ancestors, and three other stupid evolutionaries said the same thing.

Its the newest theory of a theory that is totally out of control...

Go ahead Chir, state you never siad we came from bats, or bats are our ancestors or bats preceeded primates or were first on the branch. Whatever semantics you choose, go aheasd and deny, you ever said it.

You integrity is now at stake Chri. Answer....

Remember, ... ah Ill tell you later...as no one gets away with anything with the Lord.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 975 of 984 (808559)
05-11-2017 1:08 PM
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05-11-2017 1:06 PM


Re: Got ya again .. Think bat think
Davidjay writes:

... no one gets away with anything with the Lord.


That includes you.
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